Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

don't worry guys i'm sure the national media will be all over this fake news scandal

As has been pointed out, the small print says 'imagine if it's a content between Rees-Mogg and the Lib Dems and no other party had any chance of winning, who would you vote for' and they still lose by six.

The takes are scalding hot lads

Any tactical voting tool will have glitches and teething trouble. If you demand transparency, how about some in return? There’s no tactical voting tool a Labour apparatchik will like, because you don’t want people to vote tactically. Your aim is to frame this as a two-horse race.

— Alex Andreou (@sturdyAlex) October 30, 2019

It’s data. The critics emphasise the 2017 GE. The site includes 2019 local and EU elections.

Let’s just sift through the various probabilities than cry ‘liar’ all the time.

Save that for Johnson

— Peter Jukes (@peterjukes) October 30, 2019

TACTICAL VOTING ADVICE: Try the tactic of voting for the Labour Party, because they represent the only hope for a better society.

— Avery Edison (@aedison) October 31, 2019

Terrific story. Brexit Party instructions to prospective candidates: “Important. Please all go DARK on social media. DO NOT respond to any questions about where we [are] standing, what the strategy or plan is from now on. Things will be made clear . . . very soon.” https://t.co/dyg8fVQkvG

— Tony Bonsignore (@Tony_Bee) October 30, 2019

Any tactical voting tool will have glitches and teething trouble although the fact that the glitches all work to benefit one party must be some kind of long odds coincidence.

it's very early in the campaign to be in a murderous fury, hat tip to the Lib Dems and the FBPE massive

love the Brexit Party's SAS fantasies showing in public let's go DARK

Read a really interesting thread on the kind of unregulated modelling of data that produces these kinds of tactical voting sites

Do we think Brexit Party voters will easily switch Tory just because there is some sort of deal in place?

i'd imagine a lot of them will vote for the newly purged Tories anyway and any deal from the Brexit Party will be more about Farage saving face and maintaining the illusion of his influence rather than strategic considerations

Last election’s massive Tory vote was buoyed from the UKIP vote, so you’d expect similar things this time. Disillusioned ones might stay home.

9.30am: The Lib Dems launch their election slogan, which will be on a poster on a van that will later drive around Boris Johnson’s Uxbridge and South Ruislip constituency and Jeremy Corbyn’s Islington North constituency.

i assume the slogan will read "Take Me I'm Yours"

xp RIP Dick Braine, we hardly knew you

Do we think Brexit Party voters will easily switch Tory just because there is some sort of deal in place?

― xyzzzz__,

Depends where they came from, pre Brexit Party, but I don't see why not. I think most Brexit voters aren't particularly purist about the form it takes, it just needs to feel like a win. Its existential anyway, doesn't matter what form it actually takes. Don't see Brexit Party doing particularly well.

Brexit Party going in hard on Boris for breaking his promise to leave on Oct. 31... by talking about withdrawing from contesting Tory Leave seats and concentrating on Labour Leave seats instead Huzzah!

Makes sense for them, don't think they can compete with Boris now

lol they're actually doubling down:

Naomi Smith, chief executive of Best for Britain, defended the voting guide. “Our tool uses MRP analysis, which is the only model that correctly predicted the shock wins for Labour in 2017, like Canterbury and Kensington,” she said.

“Based on a sample of 46,000 people, our data is very robust and our Peterborough byelection prediction got the Labour vote share correct within 0.6%. The tool will be updated with the data for each seat in the next day or so. We expect to back Labour in over 370 seats in England and 180 or so Lib Dems. The tool only covers England and Wales.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/30/tactical-voting-could-deliver-remain-victory-in-election-study

Makes sense for them, don't think they can compete with Boris now

Well, we're fucked then, innit.

BXP votes not concentrated in the home counties?

still optimistic regardless

Lets see, all to play for,

Cons/LD Coalition at 18/1 doesn't look a bad shout

Yes it does.

don't worry there might be the seasonal spirit of Tiny TimGoebbels in a santa hat following some of these shy Bxp voters into the polling stations!

think the cholesterol-laden scythe of feath must be doing away with some of the gammon, surely, do they factor this in? of course some of them are blue rinse ladies who will live to 110 out of spite.

yeah feath is a word now

the actor hugh grant is currently refusing to shake the hand of sajid javid the UK's working class chancellor of the exchequer

The Scythe of Feath is surely a fantasy novel waiting to be written.

had no idea the chancellor was a working class geezer you'd think he'd mention it more

he grew up somewhere so rough that people would scrawl graffiti on bus stops and call coppers complete knobheads!

This from a man who has pledged millions to put more knobheads on the street.

Well, we're fucked then, innit.

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:53

I don't think so but it goes back to how much more popular and convincing Johnson is now compared to May 18 months ago. I don't see enough of a difference between them on those bases. Brexit party targets are/were mostly Labour seats that were MORE winnable for them than the Tories.

And us being fucked really relies on the polls now suddenly being far more accurate than they were before the last two GEs right? Argh this fucking optimism etc.

They were never going to win any seats the only use for them is taking votes off the Tories, which I hoped they'd be better at than UKIP.

like most tories ropy origin stories, people that grew up with The Saj completely dispute his "moving" tale of struggle/strife, overcoming insurmountable odds etc and say he was a molly-coddled dickhead.

fucking tell them

Q: Are you part of the Islington elite?

Corbyn says he has been MP for Islington North since 1983. Almost 40% of the children in his community are in poverty. A third of people live in the rented sector. People are terrified of universal credit. He says his community has people who are totally up against it. He has been proud to represent his constituency.

all MP's are part of an elite ffs!

Was just about to post that very quote. So sick of this Islington elite shite. Johnson had the nerve to fling the word Islingtonian at Corbyn at PMQs but, I don't know, maybe they prefer Old Etonians to Islingtonians in South Shields these days.

Corbyn should show some of these smug media arseholes round his constituency one day.

or if you represent Scunthorpe or some shithole do you defer x % of your MP's salary because you not elite enough!

Was just about to post that very quote. So sick of this Islington elite shite. Johnson had the nerve to fling the word Islingtonian at Corbyn at PMQs but, I don't know, maybe they prefer Old Etonians to Islingtonians in South Shields these days.

LOL yes, I know, I used to see the fat cunt out pretending to be doing a morning run - when he was trying to get elected mayor, never saw him once he got elected.

Yes, in Corbyn’s constituency iirc.

First lived in Corbynland, then in Islington South in this house:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71700562.html

Better questions for the MP for Islington north:

- will you stand down if Rowan’s is closed on your watch?
- where is the best pub to watch GAA in the constituency?
- why haven’t you been on Arsenal fan tv yet?

There's a pub that shows GAA round the corner from me but it's a foul Arsenal dive.

Is it 12 Pins? I’ve been there a few times

gyac is an Arsenal fan, as we have long established

fped

No, much worse than 12 Pins.

Rigby being useless again

@BethRigby

Q to JC: You defied critics in 2017, but you have lowest personal polling of any oppo leader since ‘77. How do you get people out there to feel about you the way they do in this room. If u don’t win, will u stand aside?
JC: ‘It’s not about me, it’s not a presidential campaign’ twitter.com/skynews/status…

And he didn’t answer whether he’ll stand down at the next election.

Put it this way, it's where recovering alcoholic, Kenny Sansom, held the book launch of his tell-all autobiography (xp)