xpost LOL, they might've been the best part of a very different movie. It's like tacking five minutes of Evil Dead onto the end of, I dunno, The Innocents.
― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
I did see The Guest! Loved that nutty thing.
Also need to see The Invitation, I know.
― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
but I kind of took it more as a story about anti-Semitism? i mean, there are some pretty notable lines about "evil Jews," directed at Abrun?i did not catch any of this and i watched it twice― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:33 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i did not catch any of this and i watched it twice
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:33 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Minute 52, when the neighbor woman and Abrun are overlooking the mountains, right before shit starts to go really wrong. I mean, mentioning that they don't have to be afraid of "those who don't carry God's light in their hearts," then immediately mentioning "the Jews," and conflating them with heathens...seems pretty obvious to me.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
(i've also watched it a few times. one of my favorite films of the past five years).
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link
i really did not like A Field in England at all. and i don't consider it to be a horror movie. but i also don't want to have a discussion about whether it's a horror movie or not.
― na (NA), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link
oh huh i guess i'm going to have to watch hagazussa again, oh no what a terrible fate xp
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
maybe i'd have liked it more if i had not gone into it expecting even a vague semblance of a horror moviexpost
― na (NA), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:52 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
i was about to recommend the invitation but i know several people who loathe it because they think it's very stupid. it's the same situation with another movie i'm going to recommend: the strangers: prey at night
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
i don't understand why people think the invitation is stupid except that they guessed (?) the twist (?) (i don't think the invitation really has a twist)
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link
i also don't really buy the syphilis argument because in the film, it seems like people are dying of plague-like symptoms...but there are some reasons behind this that give away major plot points, so i digress. i just don't think it's syphilis, as interesting as that historical interpretation might be.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
Has anyone seen the Turkish movie Baskin, or The Oregonian? Trying to come up with a spooky Halloween lineup for friends.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link
Those are two different movies tbc, lol
I just got bored with the Invitation, it took way too long to build up to the conflict at the end, which was also predictable as hell.
You're Next is a much better recent "awful people trapped in a house" film imo
Lords of Salem sucked.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link
You're Next also v funny, underscores class conflict - the kind of things that always keep me engaged when it comes to horror
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link
oh yeah that's right people were mad because it's "predictable." imo: who cares
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
looking back over my personal top 10, this has been a helluva decade for the genre
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
I liked The Invitation but I'm a pretty easy sell. I would also recommend Veronica, Housebound (horror-comedy), Train to Busan (if it counts), and Creep (haven't seen the sequel).
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
i love the invitation bc it aesthetically and psychologically nails how trauma trains your brain to both 1) find suspicion and dread in everything and how that's horrible 2) respond usefully to actual new traumatic situations. never seen a movie do that before
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
imo: who cares
predictability in and of itself isn't a fatal flaw (MIDSOMMAR is very predictable, for ex.) but the film had nothing else going on in the design, the characters, the direction, just... anything. All it had was it's setup/premise, and that was not enough.
xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
... it's also really beautifully shot
never seen a movie do that before
in this case you really should see You're Next!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link
the invitation is great and has nothing in common with you're next other than people being in a house
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:13 AM (twenty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
i've seen you're next, it's not the same thing
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
for one, the invitation isn't playing it for laughs
I don't consider that a fault
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link
neither do i, i'm just that the approaches are profoundly different
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
i'm just saying*
fans of The Invitation and You're Next might also enjoy Monster House
― Simon H., Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
lol
― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
main protagonists of both films are essentially able to survive only because of their past traumas iirc
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link
I think I fell out of step with the current crop because I saw a few too many films with the House of the Devil template (very well-maintained buildup hampered by a fumbling, kinda shitty denouement) and was tired of getting burned by what seemed to be a trend.
― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
there were so many of those in the 00s. Oculus, The Strangers, etc.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
You're Next has a little in common with Ready or Not, but not The Invitation. Invitation (which I love) really gets a lot of mileage out of the lack of twist. You suspect something is going on early on, but you are so primed for a twist that you spend the movie wondering if that's what actually going on or if they are going to pull the rug out from under you.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
House of the Devil, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:20 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
can't argue with this without spoiling both films so:
SPOILERS
the "past trauma" in you're next is that she grew up in a survivalist cult. this trauma does not destabilize her relationships with anyone in the family (who she's just meeting iirc), it just is extremely fuckin helpful when shit goes down. the invitation's central trauma is the much more visceral and mundane trauma of the main character's kid dying. there's also very little time spent *dwelling* on the actual nature of the situation they're in in you're next, so there's none of that self-doubt and feeling-like-you're-going-crazy energy, which is what gives the invitation its excruciating tension, *even if you know what's going to happen*
END OF SPOILERS
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link
otm. in you're next, her background is like the punchline to a joke you didn't know was being told. But backgrounds in Invitation inform everything.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
OH: Starry Eyes is another recent one I saw and liked a lot. I understand opinions are mixed on that one.
― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
starry eyes is one of those movies i thought was great but it freaked me out so bad i’ll never watch it again
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
the "past trauma" in you're next is that she grew up in a survivalist cult. this trauma does not destabilize her relationships with anyone in the family (who she's just meeting iirc), it just is extremely fuckin helpful when shit goes down.
I thought there was more to it than that (isn't it implied that her family is dead)? Been awhile since I saw it and the wiki summary doesn't mention it, maybe I'm misremembering.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
Starry Eyes is great. Beautifully gross in a few unusual ways.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link
Stuff that I loved from the last decade, in rough descending order:
Under the SkinLeviathanThe Killing of a Sacred DeerClimaxGet Outmother!You're NextThe Cabin in the WoodsThe CraziesIt FollowsThe Neon DemonLet Me In
Yeah, I stan "elevated horror" bullshit, I guess. Hell, throw Stranger by the Lake up there near the top, too.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
Watch Ready or Not if you want to see a You're Next where everything related to the protagonist is done much, much less effectively.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link
Cabin in the Woods is great fun, yeah
that rounds out my top 10!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link
i watched mother! for the first time recently. most annoying movie i’ve ever seen
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
the crazies is def undersung and awesome
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
MIDSOMMARHereditaryYou're NextGet OutCabin in the WoodsIt FollowsThe VVitchA Field in EnglandUnder the SkinMandy
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
most annoying movie i’ve ever seen
I'm sure nearly every title in my list is that very thing to at least a few people.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
Re: mother! (and It Comes at Night, IIRC?), my curiosity is always piqued by (horror) movies about which there is absolutely no critical consensus.
― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
Look, I maintain that my all-time favorite horror movie is Possession and I'm certain I will eventually be slugged by someone for having suggested it to them/suggested that it was a horror film so I am onboard with divisive, lofty films of the genre.
― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link
Agreed on Luz being a miss.
Watched zombie musical Anna and the Apocalypse yesterday. Refreshing body count for a movie that tilts more towards the musical than genuine peril (i.e. zombies are respectful of the choreography). Liked it more than Slaughterhouse Rulez, a Pegg/Frost comedy/horror that struck me as tonally off.
Good lists above. I'd include The Void maybe in my own list.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link