2020 Democratic presidential primary

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she seems like a likely candidate for Attorney General

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:26 (six years ago)

(altho I think that's a step-down, power-wise, from Senator)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:27 (six years ago)

only if you recuse yourself like a fool!

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:27 (six years ago)

True theoretically, Shakes, but Bill Barr has shown how elastic those powers are.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:30 (six years ago)

would definitely like to see her at AG, provided
-CA can do at least as good or even better with a progressive replacement, and
-none of this "let the country heal" kumbaya bullshit. i want to see motherfuckers go to prison.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:32 (six years ago)

(yeah i know. motherfuckers are not going to prison :/)

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:32 (six years ago)

nah, let's make Larry Krasner AG.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:50 (six years ago)

-CA can do at least as good or even better with a progressive replacement, and

this is not a problem in CA. Feinstein's eventual replacement will def be more progressive (low bar)

-none of this "let the country heal" kumbaya bullshit. i want to see motherfuckers go to prison.

a couple of motherfuckers are already in prison fwiw

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:52 (six years ago)

gonna root for Bob Ferguson for AG, tho he probably wants to be governor if Inslee gets EPA or similar

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:54 (six years ago)

Ferguson for federal AG if it makes his suing of Facebook more effective

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 19:07 (six years ago)

Harris wouldn’t take the AG gig. She can be Senator from the most important state for the rest of all our lives if she never makes the leap to President.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 19:25 (six years ago)

^^^ Why be AG for four (or eight) years max when you can be Dianne Feinstein?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 19:31 (six years ago)

CNN has five articles up about its new NH poll that shows Sanders in front, yet none of the five say that in the headline pic.twitter.com/ECJ11xEYLL

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) October 29, 2019

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 19:43 (six years ago)

"Buttigieg in fourth, but a strong fourth" is hilarious

Simon H., Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:08 (six years ago)

it's a strong fourth, with rippling abs and an adorable pugface

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:10 (six years ago)

Kamala Harris is in trouble

Kamala Harris is dramatically restructuring her campaign by redeploying staffers to Iowa and laying off dozens of aides at her Baltimore headquarters, according to campaign sources and a memo obtained by POLITICO Wednesday, as she struggles to resuscitate her beleaguered presidential bid.

The moves come as Harris is hemorrhaging cash and in danger of lacking the resources to mount a competitive bid against better-funded rivals in Iowa. The overhaul will touch nearly every facet of Harris’ operation, with layoffs or re-deployments coming at headquarters, as well as in New Hampshire, Nevada and her home state of California, a Super Tuesday prize that her advisers once viewed as a big asset.

Campaign Manager Juan Rodriguez will cut his own salary, according to the memo, which was just over $10,000 a month in the third quarter of the year. Harris’ consultants will also have their payments reduced and the campaign plans to trim and renegotiate other contracts to slash overhead. Along with getting back in the black, a big motivation behind the cost-cutting decisions are plans to stash enough resources for a seven-figure media buy in the weeks before the Iowa caucus.

The major shake-up is the latest strategic maneuver to help rescue a campaign that was still being viewed as a likely early-state juggernaut three months ago after Harris confronted Joe Biden in a debate over school busing. The performance seemed to signal the realization of the promise Harris displayed during her campaign launch before 22,000 spectators in Oakland. Yet it’s been downhill since the summer spike.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 21:53 (six years ago)

yeah she's obviously hoping to last until a Biden collapse puts SC within her reach but it doesn't look likely

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

you never want to be described as "beleaguered", that's like a law of the universe

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 21:57 (six years ago)

as noted above, AG sounds likely

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 22:34 (six years ago)

where do Harris heads go? Butteigeig or Biden? Maybe some Warren?

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 22:36 (six years ago)

feel like I took a lot of shit for being an early supporter of her but no way am I voting for the lil mayor or toofless Joe

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 22:38 (six years ago)

the truth is I don't really like anybody now. Warren is fine on policy but I think she's a terrible match for Trump, she is not a galvanizing figure for the key Dem constituencies we need to win (African Americans and young ppl, basically), just can't see her driving turnout/enthusiasm. The president needs a cult of personality and she doesn't have it. Bernie is old and annoying, much as I agree with a lot of his positions and find his cantankerous Jewish grandpa steez entertaining. Biden is terrible, Mayor Pete is obnoxious. The rest mostly don't have a chance.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 22:44 (six years ago)

I think you are underselling both Warren and Sanders

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 22:54 (six years ago)

can we really undersell the awfulness of a plurality of the American public, though

Nhex, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 22:56 (six years ago)

Bernie def has the cult of personality. But he also has a ceiling, which he’s already hit, i think.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 22:57 (six years ago)

Obv. I wasn't going to vote for her in the primary but I really thought Harris's potential to bring minority turnout back to even 2012 levels (which would have given Hillary a win in 2016) would have been a boon to her candidacy. Instead the lesson all the hacks took from 2016 is that we need to appeal to old white people (Biden) or rich white people (Buttigieg) and in those cases everything's hopeless anyway.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 22:58 (six years ago)

Harris’ appeal to minorities was ultimately undone by how her tenure as DA was reported in the media and she was tagged with the “black when convenient” label that’s been chasing Booker around his entire career

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 23:38 (six years ago)

I also think Lara Bazelon's dishonest op-ed in the NYT had an effect, it was used by Gabbard to kneecap her in the second debate

Dan S, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 23:49 (six years ago)

*which I guess is what you mean by how her tenure as DA was reported in the media

Dan S, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 23:59 (six years ago)

"ceiling" is diff for primary and general tho - if you're talking about them battling trump then we're not in a world where bernie is still competing with the rest of the field. and galvanizing youth probably isn't out of warren's reach, i guess depending which youth and how the primaries go and who her running mate is, yadda yadda.

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:08 (six years ago)

Warren is fine on policy but I think she's a terrible match for Trump, she is not a galvanizing figure for the key Dem constituencies we need to win (African Americans and young ppl, basically), just can't see her driving turnout/enthusiasm. The president needs a cult of personality and she doesn't have it.

I disagree. Warren is kicking ass on the road, but the press fucking hates her. Fortunately, she has the advantage of running against Donald motherfucking Trump, who is getting worse - as a politician and a psychological specimen - pretty much hour-by-hour.

Bernie is old and annoying, much as I agree with a lot of his positions and find his cantankerous Jewish grandpa steez entertaining.

I agree, except for the entertaining part. I can't stand him. I would vote for literally anyone who shares his positions and isn't such a terminally tone-deaf asshole.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:27 (six years ago)

asshole, huh

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:45 (six years ago)

Yes. Bernie Sanders is an asshole who would make a terrible, terrible president. He's a lot like Jimmy Carter in that respect. Carter was a bad president who's done incredible things since leaving office. Bernie should consider fast-forwarding to that part.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:56 (six years ago)

it's going to be real interesting when Bernie slips up and wins New Hampshire & Nevada and comes in second or a "strong" (lol) third in Iowa and S. Carolina

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:14 (six years ago)

xp Yes, this cantankerous, atheistic, union supporting, Socialist-Democrat campaigning on universal health care, non-intervention, and free college tuition is "a lot like" the gentle, moderate, Christian nuclear-submarine officer who moved into the wake of George Wallace and was swept into the WH by rural/conservative voters

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:17 (six years ago)

they are definitely both people though

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:17 (six years ago)

lol yeah, i dont get the carter comparison at all

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:21 (six years ago)

The Bernie/Carter comparison was that he would also be a bad president (like carter), not personality

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:26 (six years ago)

I like Bernie but am disconcerted by his recent heart attack

Dan S, Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:27 (six years ago)

Warren is kicking ass on the road, but the press fucking hates her.

tell that to the bernie bro who told me i was getting all my info from MSDNC when i said warren was left wing

esempio (crüt), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:28 (six years ago)

"Morning Joe"'s position on Warren reminds me of my parents when I applied to out-of-state universities: "Go ahead! I'm so proud of you! IF you think you're leaving, you're fucking nuts!"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:33 (six years ago)

I wish every candidate’s stans weren’t so obsessed with how much the media hates their favorite, it just plays into the same bullshit trump has been peddling for four years.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:36 (six years ago)

from what i've seen it's mostly a vocal minority of bernie stans who act like that. which is especially disappointing since bernie himself seems like a very gracious guy.

i personally think it's lazy and stupid to blame the media because people should be able to think critically for themselves

esempio (crüt), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:42 (six years ago)

I know a Warren fan who absolutely hates Bernie because he 'ran as a third party against Hillary' so there are morons and assholes across the spectrum I'd say.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:45 (six years ago)

there are def obnoxious bernie stans, but i'm not sure how you can say that msnbc, nyt, cnn, wapo, etc don't traffic in some creative headlines that downplay or ignore good news for bernie

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:46 (six years ago)

*headlines & coverage

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:47 (six years ago)

xxp oh yeah of course i meant specifically people who attack the media. (which tbf i think the media does treat bernie less favorably than other candidates.)

esempio (crüt), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:48 (six years ago)

if people are only reading the headlines then that's on them not the media yknow

esempio (crüt), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:48 (six years ago)

Personally I think it’s a lot of confirmation bias but either way I don’t think it’s really moving the needle much wrt his prospects

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:52 (six years ago)

xxp I also had that experience, Alfred

Dan S, Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:54 (six years ago)


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