2020 Democratic presidential primary

I think that’s correct. The question for Democrats is who they would want to bet on in a street fight with Trump. Quick reflexes and a good counterpunch will be key.

re: the Sanders quote, this was my take:

This is Respectability Politics 101, which apparently is unforgivable when coming from old black people but is just fine when coming from Grandpa Savior. https://t.co/KokUIPWxS6

— DJP (@djperry1973) October 27, 2019

To be clear, the issue is not the advice; it’s how its reception seems predicated on who is giving it. I think this makes sense, but it is an inherently conservative argument that asserts the primacy of the police’s feelings over the public’s.

— DJP (@djperry1973) October 27, 2019

Yes, this is an extended gas face to the white leftists who told me I was being a bad black person who played into white supremacy by making this exact argument in the 90s and 00s. I saw you then and I see you now.

— DJP (@djperry1973) October 27, 2019

respect your opinion, DJP

i don't know how representative TWitter is of the electorate as a whole but certainly more than 5 people were mad about this, from what I saw.

Maybe when a white person is asked a question that begins, "if you were black..." the correct answer should begin, "because I am not black and don't have the experience required to answer that question properly..."

what advice do black parents of black sons give their sons re: being pulled over by the police?

exactly what Bernie said, only IME there is a vocal contingent of non-black leftists who have seized upon the phrase "respectability politics" and their love of Fear of a Black Planet who enjoy telling black people who say this in mixed company that they aren't really black

like, if you are gonna be all "any form of deference is weakness, fight the power 24/7" that is one thing, but when you're saying to the people whose lives are more at risk than yours but going "hmm, this old white man has a point in how black people should act in these situations" you should really fuck off for a while interrogate your beliefs/thought processes

Ha, those people sound obnoxious.

They are!

beyond obnoxious. that's insane & completely lacking empathy & perspective! (which comes with the territory of racism obv)

appreciate your response, DJP

New CNN poll of NH (trend since July):

Sanders: 21% (+2)
Warren: 18% (-1)
Biden: 15% (-9)
Buttigieg: 10% (+0)
Gabbard: 5% (+4)
Klobuchar: 5% (+5)
Yang: 5% (+4)
Harris: 3% (-6)
Steyer: 3% (+3)

Gets Gabbard one step closer to November debate.https://t.co/5qP1pcvg0T

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) October 29, 2019

gabbmentum

Harris' campaign has been such a shitshow :(

Pretty stunned by her lack of traction anywhere with anyone

Did they stop polling Booker and Castro?

I feel like she tried to do the triangulation thing too early, rather than build a solid base and grow from there. But she never had the bulk of black voters behind her, leftists flocked to Bernie and Warren, and older/more "centrist" voters went to Mayor Pete and Uncle Joe. She just never carved a lane.

She's been a wretched advocate for her own positions, in part because she keeps changing them in public.

Something something COP

Meanwhile the NYT wants to do to Warren what it did with Clinton.

yeah she kept saying something and then publicly backing away from it

and the left twitterverse went hard after to disqualify any claims as a "progressive" (which I don't think was fair, but we already had those arguments)

xp

I feel like she tried to do the triangulation thing too early

yep

i mean, that's just who she is. that wasn't clear at the beginning, but then i listened to an interview with her for about 15 minutes and it quickly became apparent. there is a time and a place (or historical era) for that kind of approach. just not POTUS in the year 2020

She just never carved a lane.

I get that this is true but at the same time I think it's kinda sad that you have to do this. Harris might well have a case to be a Presidential candidate who would be nobody's first choice but who almost all Democrats would be pretty into, and it's just not clear you can win a multi-person primary as that person.

But speaking against myself, I think you could argue that Elizabeth Warren is ALSO that person and has skillfully built that status into being one of the front-runners, and by virtue of that, now has a lane of people who are first-choice-Warrenites.

Warren also had a way higher profile from being in the Senate longer and having signature issues, which Harris does not.

I feel like she tried to do the triangulation thing too early

could it be that this is just who she is?

My pet theory is she acts like a prosecutor, i.e. she's unwedded to any argument because she'll use whatever means necessary.

sounds right

apologies if this was posted earlier, full thread no longer loads for me

(this speaks to Harris' issues as well as anything imo)

Now you guys are really in trouble pic.twitter.com/hJ14NHaQDV

— Zane Tracy (@Citizen_Zane) October 16, 2019

oh god damn it

Q: have you done acid?

Steyer: no
Tulsi: yes
Castro: no
Yang: microdosing rn
Klobuchar: no (lying)
Booker: yes (lying)
Beto: shrooms
Pete: Beto did shrooms
Bernie: yah
Warren: helped friends do it safely
Biden: we talkin quaaludes?
Kamala: ur under arrest for reading this tweet

— Zane Tracy (@Citizen_Zane) October 16, 2019

she's still trying to stir up shit, diminishing returns though

You are attacking a decorated Army colonel.

Alexander Vindman served in the Iraq War. You serve yourself.

He received a Purple Heart. You're receiving subpoenas.

Unlike you, he has a sense of duty to this country. He is a patriot. You are a disgrace. https://t.co/JnIwDAyh9o

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) October 29, 2019

Oh wow surely that will induce Trumpers to abandon their cult

she's trying to get Trump to attack her, because a fight w him would elevate her profile

Has he given her a nickname yet? Krazy Kooky Kamala or something?

Beto: shrooms
Pete: Beto did shrooms

ok this is p funny

the windup toy monkey banging cymbals in his skull can probably only keep up with the three front runners

i would be shocked if he considered a black woman to be any kind of competition whatsoever

my wife was initially hot on Harris until harris started talking more and her take on her was that she was disingenuous. I agree. She's a good senator though.

I like Harris as a senator a lot. Harris as a presidential candidate would have been Fine(tm) after a more stable, amenable-to-my-family's-overall-wellbeing version of the United States, like say after health concerns caused Hillary Clinton to rule out a second term. In the current state of affairs, she solidly lives in The Unappealing Middle and doesn't have the extra bonus of being a young white man (hi Buttigieg); I thought she had the opportunity to turn that into something more of a rallying cry but her over-reliance on sloganeering and her premature focus on the post-primary coalition (which, to others' points, is a genuine reflection of who she is; I don't think this was cynical triangulation) made her unsuitable for the moment.

she seems like a likely candidate for Attorney General

(altho I think that's a step-down, power-wise, from Senator)

only if you recuse yourself like a fool!

True theoretically, Shakes, but Bill Barr has shown how elastic those powers are.

would definitely like to see her at AG, provided
-CA can do at least as good or even better with a progressive replacement, and
-none of this "let the country heal" kumbaya bullshit. i want to see motherfuckers go to prison.

(yeah i know. motherfuckers are not going to prison :/)

nah, let's make Larry Krasner AG.

-CA can do at least as good or even better with a progressive replacement, and

this is not a problem in CA. Feinstein's eventual replacement will def be more progressive (low bar)

-none of this "let the country heal" kumbaya bullshit. i want to see motherfuckers go to prison.

a couple of motherfuckers are already in prison fwiw

gonna root for Bob Ferguson for AG, tho he probably wants to be governor if Inslee gets EPA or similar

Ferguson for federal AG if it makes his suing of Facebook more effective