2020 Democratic presidential primary

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I don't know if I hate departments like hr, communicatons, marketing because they are ultimately worthless or because they got categorized into women's work and got all sorts of messed up. It's probably both.

Yerac, Saturday, 26 October 2019 01:14 (six years ago)

she sound intersting

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 October 2019 01:17 (six years ago)

She's a good friend and terrified of losing. Fear is a terrible political crouch.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2019 01:18 (six years ago)

this is almost as depressing as when my boss told me she found out her nanny who was in nursing school and an avid cross fitter in nyc couldn't vote for HIllary because she couldn't see a woman being president.

Yerac, Saturday, 26 October 2019 01:20 (six years ago)

i have no idea why mayor pete seems to be the favored candidate of so many of the "warren can't win!" folks. he seems like the most useless of the major candidates by far.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 26 October 2019 01:54 (six years ago)

He's replaced Biden. It's that simple. Biden didn't come up once tonight.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2019 01:55 (six years ago)

a buttigieg vs. warren primary will be especially insufferable b/c of all the nerds

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Saturday, 26 October 2019 02:19 (six years ago)

Somehow it does seem Buttigieg has become the chief non-Biden centrist. I would've thought Harris or O'Rourke would be in that spot at this point.

o. nate, Saturday, 26 October 2019 02:27 (six years ago)

Idk what’s the deal with Harris, maybe her campaign staff just sucks, seems like she can’t ever manage to get any attention which gives the impression she’s just not trying very hard to win.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Saturday, 26 October 2019 03:05 (six years ago)

Harris seems to have ceded the territory of 'candidate of bold ideas' to Sanders and Warren, and has decisively settled to be the candidate of whatever sounds kind of bold, but which polls show will safely appeal to a broad segment of the party and to independents. OK, except that her chosen 'safely bold' territory is already well occupied by Buttigeig and Booker and some others even less relevant than her.

She has no signature issue so far, aside from flogging her backstory, and she seems disinclined to claim a noteworthy signature issue that might generate excitement and propel her into relevance. All the signs I see indicate her campaign has already failed and she just hasn't realized it yet.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 26 October 2019 03:30 (six years ago)

plan for THIS, WARREN

https://i.imgur.com/BfRf0AW.png

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 26 October 2019 04:11 (six years ago)

is that real or parody bretbug

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Saturday, 26 October 2019 04:17 (six years ago)

Of course it’s real, you can’t spoof this asshole

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Saturday, 26 October 2019 04:25 (six years ago)

Just learned the November debate is five minutes from my house. Not that I can get a ticket. But cool?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 October 2019 04:50 (six years ago)

open for a cursed evening pic.twitter.com/WJelEqH9O1

— vanessa a. scary bee 🐝✌🏾 (@Vanessa_ABee) October 25, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 26 October 2019 04:57 (six years ago)

Everyone's trying to make me run 3rd party, but darn it, I just won't do it! Unless...

This is a movement to take back the Democratic Party from corrupt warmongers. They’re doing everything they can to get me to run as a 3rd-party candidate so they can retain control of our Party. But I won’t. I’ll continue to fight to make our party & country of, by, & for the ppl pic.twitter.com/JyeoCmM4ta

— Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) October 26, 2019

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 26 October 2019 13:56 (six years ago)

I see T.I. is a berniebro

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:05 (six years ago)

So Bernie was asked by an HBCU student "If I’m your son, what advice would you give me next time I’m pulled over by a police officer?" and his answer was...not great.

.@BernieSanders to black student on how to handle getting pulled over by the police: “Identify who the police officer is - respect what they are doing so that you don’t get shot in the back of the head.”

pic.twitter.com/MND84NELLL

— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) October 26, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 27 October 2019 18:04 (six years ago)

Actually seems p solid

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:12 (six years ago)

Kind of difficult to effectively address and correct institutional racism in policing during a traffic stop. Seems like the big picture here is just escaping unhurt, as Bernie indicates in what was tweeted of his reply. If he said more, it isn't in the tweet, but obviously there's a lot more that could be said.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:19 (six years ago)

Biden answered that if he was Biden's son, he would be white, so he wouldn't be pulled over by the police to begin with. Both answers are a bit... awkward.

Frederik B, Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:19 (six years ago)

But Aimless pretty much otm.

Frederik B, Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

I wonder if unperson preferred Harris' answer, which included the phrase "nothing stops a bullet like a job."

Simon H., Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:08 (six years ago)

My interest in Harris has waned as the odds of her actually becoming the nominee have lengthened. But even when she was my #2 pick it was mostly about her being a competent steward of the US in its capacity as international death machine.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:13 (six years ago)

(In case you're in any way confused by that statement, I'll make it explicit: Yes, I am holding different candidates to different standards.)

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:15 (six years ago)

lol, I am blocked from notcapnamerica's tweets, I have made four tweets in nine years.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

me too!

Dan S, Sunday, 27 October 2019 21:11 (six years ago)

There are firefox extensions people use to mass-block followers-of-whoever.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 27 October 2019 21:17 (six years ago)

unperson when you say harris would be the most competent steward of the American death machine, do you mean Harris will kill fewer people, or that she'll kill the "right" people, or something else?

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Sunday, 27 October 2019 21:48 (six years ago)

A combination of those two.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 27 October 2019 22:02 (six years ago)

so "fewer right people" then

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 27 October 2019 22:18 (six years ago)

If he said more, it isn't in the tweet, but obviously there's a lot more that could be said.

He did.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 27 October 2019 22:48 (six years ago)

"I would also be very mindful of the fact that as a nation we have got to hold police officers accountable for the actions the commit… I would be very cautious… but I would also defend my rights and know my rights and make sure that police officer’s camera is on."

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 27 October 2019 22:51 (six years ago)

*they commit

Taking sentences or even phrases by Sanders out of context is a lib Twitter sport.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 27 October 2019 22:54 (six years ago)

about five people were outraged, we really don't need to feed this stupid machine with every soundbite

k3vin k., Sunday, 27 October 2019 22:55 (six years ago)

If you listen to the full clip, he says that people shouldn’t have to live in feat of the police, and we desperately need more accountability. But in the here and now, people ned to be cautious, especially black people, but they should also make sure to take the cop’s name and make sure they know their rights.

This is honestly just some out of context nonsense. Substantively, he is on the right side of this issue.

treeship., Sunday, 27 October 2019 23:10 (six years ago)

since i don't even own a tv, i hadn't noticed that it only plays tom steyer ads

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/weve-already-seen-twice-as-many-presidential-tv-ads-as-at-this-point-in-the-2016-election/

Using data from Kantar/Campaign Media Analysis Group, we can compare the pace of TV ad spending so far in 2019 with the same point in 2015. And so far, the 2020 campaign has seen more than twice as many television ad spots as the 2016 race. From Jan. 1 through Oct. 20, 2019, campaigns and outside groups spent an estimated $33.3 million on 76,030 television ad spots for the 2020 presidential election. By contrast, through the week of Oct. 18, 2015, campaigns and outside groups had aired only 32,191 TV spots — despite spending more money than they have so far this year ($43.1 million compared with $33.3 million).1

That disparity is especially wild considering that there were two competitive primaries in 2016 — on both the Republican and Democratic sides — while 2020 features just one spirited nomination fight. But already a total of 73,117 pro-Democratic spots have been aired in the presidential race so far compared with only 23,649 spots aired in 2015 by Republicans, whose primary (a record number of candidates, no dominant front-runner) resembles the current Democratic one.

And there’s basically one reason for that; his name is Tom Steyer. The self-funding billionaire has already aired 59,615 spots touting his candidacy, or 78 percent of all 2020 presidential spots so far — dropping an estimated $23.2 million in the process. In fact, without Steyer, advertising levels in the 2020 race look a lot more like 2016. Only 16,415 spots have been aired by sponsors other than Steyer, which is right in between the 23,649 GOP spots and the 8,388 Democratic spots aired through this point in 2015. It also wasn’t until Steyer jumped into the race in July that 2020 advertising really took off.

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Monday, 28 October 2019 14:59 (six years ago)

Job creation!

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:05 (six years ago)

Whoever the Democratic nomination process chooses, it seems unavoidable that the general election will be a referendum on the Trump presidency. And whoever becomes the Democratic nominee, the Trump strategy will consist solely of painting them as being the scariest nightmare of a democrat they can create, using whatever bits of old clothes and straw they can throw together and make stand up.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:35 (six years ago)

I think that’s correct. The question for Democrats is who they would want to bet on in a street fight with Trump. Quick reflexes and a good counterpunch will be key.

o. nate, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:48 (six years ago)

re: the Sanders quote, this was my take:

This is Respectability Politics 101, which apparently is unforgivable when coming from old black people but is just fine when coming from Grandpa Savior. https://t.co/KokUIPWxS6

— DJP (@djperry1973) October 27, 2019

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:52 (six years ago)

To be clear, the issue is not the advice; it’s how its reception seems predicated on who is giving it. I think this makes sense, but it is an inherently conservative argument that asserts the primacy of the police’s feelings over the public’s.

— DJP (@djperry1973) October 27, 2019

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:53 (six years ago)

Yes, this is an extended gas face to the white leftists who told me I was being a bad black person who played into white supremacy by making this exact argument in the 90s and 00s. I saw you then and I see you now.

— DJP (@djperry1973) October 27, 2019

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:53 (six years ago)

respect your opinion, DJP

k3vin k., Monday, 28 October 2019 17:03 (six years ago)

i don't know how representative TWitter is of the electorate as a whole but certainly more than 5 people were mad about this, from what I saw.

akm, Monday, 28 October 2019 17:08 (six years ago)

Maybe when a white person is asked a question that begins, "if you were black..." the correct answer should begin, "because I am not black and don't have the experience required to answer that question properly..."

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 28 October 2019 17:51 (six years ago)

what advice do black parents of black sons give their sons re: being pulled over by the police?

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Monday, 28 October 2019 19:05 (six years ago)

exactly what Bernie said, only IME there is a vocal contingent of non-black leftists who have seized upon the phrase "respectability politics" and their love of Fear of a Black Planet who enjoy telling black people who say this in mixed company that they aren't really black

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 28 October 2019 19:33 (six years ago)

like, if you are gonna be all "any form of deference is weakness, fight the power 24/7" that is one thing, but when you're saying to the people whose lives are more at risk than yours but going "hmm, this old white man has a point in how black people should act in these situations" you should really fuck off for a while interrogate your beliefs/thought processes

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 28 October 2019 19:35 (six years ago)


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