2020 Democratic presidential primary

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she is samoan american via hawaii via israel's gal gadot via a nice white suit

I see she announced she is not seeking re-election to Congress

i follow on fb some o'ahu politicians and what's been going on with Mauna Kea protests and commentators always mention that she is fully absent from her current elected duties. And she would be a republican except republicans have an extremely hard time being elected.

yup

or at the very least: it means almost nothing about any politician that they are a democrat in hawaii

for the record and despite a distinct personal bias i find the mauna kea protests extremely depressing and do not think they could be better designed to siphon anti-imperialist anti-development rage safely off in the direction of something haole capital couldn't care less about if someone had actually been trying

(not the thread obv but don't think it had come up on-board before)

spouse is an astronomer and observes/works in hawaii sometimes/we've spent months there/will be back again soon for a couple of months. It took about 2 conversations about ethical science and colonialism to sway him to my side but I honestly think that most astronomers have't even thought holistically about what they want to do and the "fairness"/impact.

there were a lot of negatives in your statement so I had a hard time being certain of your bias. xpost.

sorry, i said despite when i should have said "acknowledging". my bias is pro-telescope so i usually only talk about it if asked, tho unfortunately i am asked pretty often lol.

ah, weird.

I just returned from a happy hour at which a good friend, a Wells Fargo communications VP, shared her horror at the thought of a Warren presidency (Bernie wasn't even a threat because "he won't be nominated"; he's not on their radar at all). IF she gets the nod, she says, Warren'll lose. When I confronted her about the evil of voting for Trump instead of the Democrat, she said I needn't fear about her -- her fellow corporatists who understand "charisma" ("We help create it!") know that Warren hasn't got it, therefore we should look for another candidate.

That candidate is Buttigieg.

It got ugly for about ten minutes as we traded insults about our respective backgrounds (she's the employee of one of the world's worst institutions; I'm an academic).

WF has terrible employees.

You can tell her I said that. It's known in the industry.

I've told her and she knows it.

I at least was a VP at a much higher tier bank.

"charisma" ("We help create it!")

Drink-in-face territory there.

I don't know if I hate departments like hr, communicatons, marketing because they are ultimately worthless or because they got categorized into women's work and got all sorts of messed up. It's probably both.

she sound intersting

She's a good friend and terrified of losing. Fear is a terrible political crouch.

this is almost as depressing as when my boss told me she found out her nanny who was in nursing school and an avid cross fitter in nyc couldn't vote for HIllary because she couldn't see a woman being president.

i have no idea why mayor pete seems to be the favored candidate of so many of the "warren can't win!" folks. he seems like the most useless of the major candidates by far.

He's replaced Biden. It's that simple. Biden didn't come up once tonight.

a buttigieg vs. warren primary will be especially insufferable b/c of all the nerds

Somehow it does seem Buttigieg has become the chief non-Biden centrist. I would've thought Harris or O'Rourke would be in that spot at this point.

Idk what’s the deal with Harris, maybe her campaign staff just sucks, seems like she can’t ever manage to get any attention which gives the impression she’s just not trying very hard to win.

Harris seems to have ceded the territory of 'candidate of bold ideas' to Sanders and Warren, and has decisively settled to be the candidate of whatever sounds kind of bold, but which polls show will safely appeal to a broad segment of the party and to independents. OK, except that her chosen 'safely bold' territory is already well occupied by Buttigeig and Booker and some others even less relevant than her.

She has no signature issue so far, aside from flogging her backstory, and she seems disinclined to claim a noteworthy signature issue that might generate excitement and propel her into relevance. All the signs I see indicate her campaign has already failed and she just hasn't realized it yet.

plan for THIS, WARREN

https://i.imgur.com/BfRf0AW.png

is that real or parody bretbug

Of course it’s real, you can’t spoof this asshole

Just learned the November debate is five minutes from my house. Not that I can get a ticket. But cool?

open for a cursed evening pic.twitter.com/WJelEqH9O1

— vanessa a. scary bee 🐝✌🏾 (@Vanessa_ABee) October 25, 2019

Everyone's trying to make me run 3rd party, but darn it, I just won't do it! Unless...

This is a movement to take back the Democratic Party from corrupt warmongers. They’re doing everything they can to get me to run as a 3rd-party candidate so they can retain control of our Party. But I won’t. I’ll continue to fight to make our party & country of, by, & for the ppl pic.twitter.com/JyeoCmM4ta

— Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) October 26, 2019

I see T.I. is a berniebro

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75233422_706617049747079_6632685959051739136_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_oc=AQlQMV1BVbwGRGPzM7zcz307tH6NSerAwvkeld_wnrwt6GTwyFNn4o1XLHcGg1ya4VI&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=8db5fd284dff4ee0ed9e8385c2130e6c&oe=5E22FE75

So Bernie was asked by an HBCU student "If I’m your son, what advice would you give me next time I’m pulled over by a police officer?" and his answer was...not great.

.@BernieSanders to black student on how to handle getting pulled over by the police: “Identify who the police officer is - respect what they are doing so that you don’t get shot in the back of the head.”

pic.twitter.com/MND84NELLL

— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) October 26, 2019

Actually seems p solid

Kind of difficult to effectively address and correct institutional racism in policing during a traffic stop. Seems like the big picture here is just escaping unhurt, as Bernie indicates in what was tweeted of his reply. If he said more, it isn't in the tweet, but obviously there's a lot more that could be said.

Biden answered that if he was Biden's son, he would be white, so he wouldn't be pulled over by the police to begin with. Both answers are a bit... awkward.

But Aimless pretty much otm.

I wonder if unperson preferred Harris' answer, which included the phrase "nothing stops a bullet like a job."

My interest in Harris has waned as the odds of her actually becoming the nominee have lengthened. But even when she was my #2 pick it was mostly about her being a competent steward of the US in its capacity as international death machine.

(In case you're in any way confused by that statement, I'll make it explicit: Yes, I am holding different candidates to different standards.)

lol, I am blocked from notcapnamerica's tweets, I have made four tweets in nine years.

me too!

There are firefox extensions people use to mass-block followers-of-whoever.