2020 Democratic presidential primary

Better as in he ate more meat?

Don't answer that.

fwiw, a friend of mine helps run a harm reduction organization in iowa, and last night she moderated a talk with beto on the subject. her take: "honestly, he has some pretty solid drug policy plans. lifting the federal funding ban on syringes, allowing safe consumption spaces to open, decriminalizing drugs, removing the X waiver, and more."

idk Beto's been growing on me a bit but I still wish he'd just run for Senate. he'd make a cool VP I guess.

goes without saying i guess, but fuuuuuck gulsi gabbard, damn what a fucking moron

yeah i said it, gulsi

if she runs 3rd party the net effect will be worse for democrats (she'll pick up votes from republicans; she'll pick up more votes than that from democrats).

the distribution of democratic voters has a long tail, and way off on the end there's a group of people that has no idea wtf is going on in their lives or in the world, and all they know is that there's someone to vote for that their friends aren't voting for (or are even advising them not to vote for! even better) that is a democrat, sort of, and that it could be a wildcard gutsy voting move that might be a fun conversation topic at the dumbass bar the following day. this is the tulsi gabbard bloc

ugh, that rings all too true

fwiw she has repeatedly and explicitly said she will not run as a third party candidate. she sucks, but i wouldn't worry about her until there's a reason to.

But the totally unfair and rigged Democratic primary process has kept her in the bottom tier of candidates, so she kind of has to go third party, really.

surprised kai (a young legacy case w a famous name) has to bother raising any money at all just to unseat tulsi tbh

meanwhile, Sully:http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/andrew-sullivan-the-difference-between-boris-and-trump.html#comments

Booker lacks a connection with anyone, and still seems to be campaigning for a Rhodes Scholarship. On paper, he’s perfect. In reality, he comes off as an earnest cyborg from outer space. Harris has revealed herself as a feckless, authoritarian, lying opportunist who treats the Constitution as cavalierly as Trump, but without his excuse of total ignorance. Tulsi is despised by too many Dems to have a hope (I can’t quite figure out the reason for their hatred, but it’s a fact). Klobuchar is a ball of nerves and insecurity who seems to shrink upon exposure. Buttigieg is easily the best debater, and most appealing to independents and a few wavering Republicans, but the big question still hangs over his candidacy: Will more culturally conservative minority voters — not to mention white working-class ones — show up for a gay man in the numbers that Democrats need? The cause for concern is real.

O’Rourke is a woke, moronic bigot, who believes we live in a white-supremacist country, and would happily remove tax exemptions from most traditional churches, synagogues, and mosques, because they still believe in the literal teachings of the Bible or the Koran. Of all the candidates, he’s the only one I actively loathe. Castro is an open-borders globalist panderer dedicated to the vital cause of free abortions for transgender male illegal immigrants. All of them have staked out “left Twitter” positions on immigration, race, and “social justice” that make Obama seem like Steve Bannon in comparison.

The only true bright spot is Andrew Yang — fresh, real, future-oriented, sane, offering actual analyses of automation, trade, and technology that distinguish him from the crowd. Like Buttigieg, I suspect he’d be a superb foil for Trump and could flummox the dictatorial dotard into incoherence and open bigotry. He’s a fascinating character to me. When he’s asked a question, his nearly expressionless, wrinkle-free face, which seems to spring directly from his chest, seems about to offer some canned pabulum, and then almost always responds with a flawless, thoughtful, and entirely relevant, even insightful answer. I’m rooting for him (and Pete), but I’m not delusional.

Harris has revealed herself as a feckless, authoritarian, lying opportunist who treats the Constitution as cavalierly as Trump, but without his excuse of total ignorance.

Tulsi is despised by too many Dems to have a hope (I can’t quite figure out the reason for their hatred, but it’s a fact).

LOL

I’m not delusional.

Ignore all evidence to the contrary in the previous three paragraphs.

Lmao

How is it this jackass still gets paid to bloviate

(who) would happily remove tax exemptions from most traditional churches, synagogues, and mosques, because they still believe in the literal teachings of the Bible or the Koran.

Whereas I would happily remove tax exemptions from most traditional churches, synagogues, and mosques, because it is not the business of government to directly subsidize religions, however their adherents believe. The mere problem of adequately distinguishing what divides a church from a fraudulent simulacrum of a church is insoluble, largely because any definition liberal enough to include all the "legitimate" religions will invariably allow any number of transparently fraudulent ones, like Scientology, to be generously subsidized and grow to obscene proportions.

btw, that long quote Alfred quoted is sufficient to confirm that, even if Sully was arguably relevant in the past, he is well past the point of relevance now.

his nearly expressionless, wrinkle-free face, which seems to spring directly from his chest

excuse me what

asian don't raisin.

he just called andrew yang a thumb with a face iirc

like Chris Christie!

as always, i invoke MODOK

O’Rourke is a woke, moronic bigot, who believes we live in a white-supremacist country

the person who wrote this sentence published charles murray's racist "bell curve" nonsense in the new republic against the wishes of the entire editorial staff and defends that decision to this day

meanwhile, Sully:

i mean hard pass but this made up for it

his nearly expressionless, wrinkle-free face, which seems to spring directly from his chest

excuse me what

― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, October 25, 2019 8:25 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

asian don't raisin.

― Yerac, Friday, October 25, 2019 8:30 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://i.imgur.com/LfFpPSR.jpg

yeah i said it, gulsi

yeah i said it, rub on your gulsis

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHwO7_0WsAEWpkO?format=png&name=large

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Yang Chung were unavailable

what, he couldn't get Y'Angelo

Yang Starr

The Wu-Yang Clan

Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Yang

Because of the yang

I would be very surprised if Gabbard pulls any Dem votes if she ran 3rd party, but what do I fucking know. I know two people who support her: one is a strident anti-interventionist, the other is a fucking weirdo who lives in my neighborhood who I'm pretty sure is insane. I think she appeals to some horny former Bernie Bros.

This is random but because Gabbard has a tinge of Gal Gadot I think it's appealing to those that are subliminally pinged by that too.

israeli, strength of a superhero, and yeah the horniness of people.

tulsi isn't israeli?

en serio?

si

she is samoan american via hawaii via israel's gal gadot via a nice white suit

I see she announced she is not seeking re-election to Congress

i follow on fb some o'ahu politicians and what's been going on with Mauna Kea protests and commentators always mention that she is fully absent from her current elected duties. And she would be a republican except republicans have an extremely hard time being elected.

yup

or at the very least: it means almost nothing about any politician that they are a democrat in hawaii

for the record and despite a distinct personal bias i find the mauna kea protests extremely depressing and do not think they could be better designed to siphon anti-imperialist anti-development rage safely off in the direction of something haole capital couldn't care less about if someone had actually been trying

(not the thread obv but don't think it had come up on-board before)

spouse is an astronomer and observes/works in hawaii sometimes/we've spent months there/will be back again soon for a couple of months. It took about 2 conversations about ethical science and colonialism to sway him to my side but I honestly think that most astronomers have't even thought holistically about what they want to do and the "fairness"/impact.