2020 Democratic presidential primary

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I went out for drinks a few months ago with a law student who told me she was voting for buttigieg. reader, I ghosted her

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:22 (six years ago)

He has the same value toward human beings as I have, despite our differences

this statement is completely contrary to the practice of jurisprudence

j., Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:29 (six years ago)

eric H otm. this has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with perspective and priorities

― k3vin k., Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:22 PM

well, yeah, but don't underestimate the therapeutic uses of calling a guy stupid.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:31 (six years ago)

thought this was good
https://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3839&context=facpubs

also
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/essay/clarence-thomass-radical-vision-of-race

― Mordy, Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:32 PM (one hour ago)

corey robin was on jacobin radio discussing the book, was pretty interesting (though probably just goes over what's in that new yorker piece - which i haven't read) https://blubrry.com/jacobin/50969277/behind-the-news-corey-robin-on-clarence-thomas/

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:34 (six years ago)

Tulsi announced a bit ago that she's not running for re-election to the house. If she honestly believes she has a path to the Dem nomination, she's getting terrible advice. That's why it seems pretty clear she's about to embark on a third party candidacy. For whom? The Greens? The Libertarians? Dunno. But it's happening.

Either that, or she's going on the Fox News payroll.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 October 2019 04:43 (six years ago)

her not running for re-election counts as one win, at any rate.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 25 October 2019 12:19 (six years ago)

xp Tulsi Gabbard is not a libertarian though! Like her platform simply does not line up with that of the Libertarian Party. She seems like a Green Party candidate if anything

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Friday, 25 October 2019 12:24 (six years ago)

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/tulsi-gabbard/

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Friday, 25 October 2019 12:26 (six years ago)

maye I'm naive but I don't see her as a threat to Dems if she runs 3rd party. She has barely any actual support from Dem voters. She'd probably be more damaging to Trump.

akm, Friday, 25 October 2019 13:02 (six years ago)

there is 1 person i know specifically who would vote Tulsi on a 3rd party ticket in a heartbeat if anyone other than Bernie (or Tulsi!) were the Democratic nominee

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:05 (six years ago)

I'm sure there's more than 1 person on that bus

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:11 (six years ago)

Gabbard on Hannity last night:

Tulsi Gabbard appears on Hannity and criticizes the impeachment inquiry process by saying she doesn’t know what’s going on behind closed doors and that she wants transparency pic.twitter.com/au4Zyyhv0B

— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) October 25, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:11 (six years ago)

Hannity is a great place to reach Democratic primary voters

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:12 (six years ago)

lol wtf is wrong with her

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:13 (six years ago)

i guess her political views are continuing to "evolve"

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:13 (six years ago)

Might have something to do with her decision:
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/10/tulsi-gabbard-with-hawaii-donors-house-challenge/

Hawaii state Sen. Kai Kahele, a Democrat, has raised $345,616 from Hawaii donors in his bid to unseat Gabbard. That’s more than Gabbard’s presidential campaign has raised from donors in the Aloha State — $221,501 — over the same time period through September.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:17 (six years ago)

tulsi supports modi and assad, she loves fascism

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:17 (six years ago)

https://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2019/10/24/caucuspoll

Mayor Who Doesn't Know About Moisturizer moves into 2nd place in Iowa.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:34 (six years ago)

But, Eric, he knows about meat.

His presence at the Iowa Steak Fry last month was better than any other candidate,” Peterson said.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:47 (six years ago)

Better as in he ate more meat?

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 25 October 2019 14:20 (six years ago)

Don't answer that.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 25 October 2019 14:20 (six years ago)

fwiw, a friend of mine helps run a harm reduction organization in iowa, and last night she moderated a talk with beto on the subject. her take: "honestly, he has some pretty solid drug policy plans. lifting the federal funding ban on syringes, allowing safe consumption spaces to open, decriminalizing drugs, removing the X waiver, and more."

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 25 October 2019 14:31 (six years ago)

idk Beto's been growing on me a bit but I still wish he'd just run for Senate. he'd make a cool VP I guess.

frogbs, Friday, 25 October 2019 15:01 (six years ago)

goes without saying i guess, but fuuuuuck gulsi gabbard, damn what a fucking moron

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 25 October 2019 15:07 (six years ago)

yeah i said it, gulsi

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 25 October 2019 15:07 (six years ago)

if she runs 3rd party the net effect will be worse for democrats (she'll pick up votes from republicans; she'll pick up more votes than that from democrats).

the distribution of democratic voters has a long tail, and way off on the end there's a group of people that has no idea wtf is going on in their lives or in the world, and all they know is that there's someone to vote for that their friends aren't voting for (or are even advising them not to vote for! even better) that is a democrat, sort of, and that it could be a wildcard gutsy voting move that might be a fun conversation topic at the dumbass bar the following day. this is the tulsi gabbard bloc

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 25 October 2019 15:10 (six years ago)

ugh, that rings all too true

Dan I., Friday, 25 October 2019 15:23 (six years ago)

fwiw she has repeatedly and explicitly said she will not run as a third party candidate. she sucks, but i wouldn't worry about her until there's a reason to.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:21 (six years ago)

But the totally unfair and rigged Democratic primary process has kept her in the bottom tier of candidates, so she kind of has to go third party, really.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:00 (six years ago)

surprised kai (a young legacy case w a famous name) has to bother raising any money at all just to unseat tulsi tbh

difficult listening hour, Friday, 25 October 2019 18:45 (six years ago)

meanwhile, Sully:http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/andrew-sullivan-the-difference-between-boris-and-trump.html#comments

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:00 (six years ago)

Booker lacks a connection with anyone, and still seems to be campaigning for a Rhodes Scholarship. On paper, he’s perfect. In reality, he comes off as an earnest cyborg from outer space. Harris has revealed herself as a feckless, authoritarian, lying opportunist who treats the Constitution as cavalierly as Trump, but without his excuse of total ignorance. Tulsi is despised by too many Dems to have a hope (I can’t quite figure out the reason for their hatred, but it’s a fact). Klobuchar is a ball of nerves and insecurity who seems to shrink upon exposure. Buttigieg is easily the best debater, and most appealing to independents and a few wavering Republicans, but the big question still hangs over his candidacy: Will more culturally conservative minority voters — not to mention white working-class ones — show up for a gay man in the numbers that Democrats need? The cause for concern is real.

O’Rourke is a woke, moronic bigot, who believes we live in a white-supremacist country, and would happily remove tax exemptions from most traditional churches, synagogues, and mosques, because they still believe in the literal teachings of the Bible or the Koran. Of all the candidates, he’s the only one I actively loathe. Castro is an open-borders globalist panderer dedicated to the vital cause of free abortions for transgender male illegal immigrants. All of them have staked out “left Twitter” positions on immigration, race, and “social justice” that make Obama seem like Steve Bannon in comparison.

The only true bright spot is Andrew Yang — fresh, real, future-oriented, sane, offering actual analyses of automation, trade, and technology that distinguish him from the crowd. Like Buttigieg, I suspect he’d be a superb foil for Trump and could flummox the dictatorial dotard into incoherence and open bigotry. He’s a fascinating character to me. When he’s asked a question, his nearly expressionless, wrinkle-free face, which seems to spring directly from his chest, seems about to offer some canned pabulum, and then almost always responds with a flawless, thoughtful, and entirely relevant, even insightful answer. I’m rooting for him (and Pete), but I’m not delusional.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:00 (six years ago)

Harris has revealed herself as a feckless, authoritarian, lying opportunist who treats the Constitution as cavalierly as Trump, but without his excuse of total ignorance.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:01 (six years ago)

Tulsi is despised by too many Dems to have a hope (I can’t quite figure out the reason for their hatred, but it’s a fact).

LOL

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:04 (six years ago)

I’m not delusional.

Ignore all evidence to the contrary in the previous three paragraphs.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:04 (six years ago)

Lmao

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 19:10 (six years ago)

How is it this jackass still gets paid to bloviate

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 19:11 (six years ago)

(who) would happily remove tax exemptions from most traditional churches, synagogues, and mosques, because they still believe in the literal teachings of the Bible or the Koran.

Whereas I would happily remove tax exemptions from most traditional churches, synagogues, and mosques, because it is not the business of government to directly subsidize religions, however their adherents believe. The mere problem of adequately distinguishing what divides a church from a fraudulent simulacrum of a church is insoluble, largely because any definition liberal enough to include all the "legitimate" religions will invariably allow any number of transparently fraudulent ones, like Scientology, to be generously subsidized and grow to obscene proportions.

btw, that long quote Alfred quoted is sufficient to confirm that, even if Sully was arguably relevant in the past, he is well past the point of relevance now.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:12 (six years ago)

his nearly expressionless, wrinkle-free face, which seems to spring directly from his chest

excuse me what

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:25 (six years ago)

asian don't raisin.

Yerac, Friday, 25 October 2019 19:30 (six years ago)

he just called andrew yang a thumb with a face iirc

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:37 (six years ago)

like Chris Christie!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:41 (six years ago)

as always, i invoke MODOK

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

O’Rourke is a woke, moronic bigot, who believes we live in a white-supremacist country

the person who wrote this sentence published charles murray's racist "bell curve" nonsense in the new republic against the wishes of the entire editorial staff and defends that decision to this day

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:02 (six years ago)

meanwhile, Sully:

i mean hard pass but this made up for it

his nearly expressionless, wrinkle-free face, which seems to spring directly from his chest

excuse me what

― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, October 25, 2019 8:25 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

asian don't raisin.

― Yerac, Friday, October 25, 2019 8:30 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

cheese canopy (map), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:05 (six years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/LfFpPSR.jpg

difficult listening hour, Friday, 25 October 2019 20:13 (six years ago)

yeah i said it, gulsi

yeah i said it, rub on your gulsis

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:28 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHwO7_0WsAEWpkO?format=png&name=large

mookieproof, Friday, 25 October 2019 21:53 (six years ago)

i saw weezer live once, at an event celebrating the opening of portland's first Microsoft Store. checks out

difficult listening hour, Friday, 25 October 2019 21:58 (six years ago)

Yang Chung were unavailable

and she could see an earmuff factory (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 25 October 2019 22:03 (six years ago)


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