PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-50166137

just two days after I told my local councillor that I didn't join Labour to turn up at local meetings to vote for him and haven't got the time, inclination etc... somebody has petrol-bombed and burned his cars out. Not good.

Horrendous. Hate crime I’m guessing?

probably but not certain, those charming Yorkshire Patriots were marching the town centre a couple of weeks back, although not in massive numbers and I don't think any of them were local, but that could be connected. It was 4 people caught on CCTV that carried out the attack, it seems a bit too serious for daft young louts. But like he says he has lived in Thornhill Lees for 45 years and this hasn't happened before, it's rough as fuck but not that rough!

outside glasgows shite
xps

Unconfirmed reports that the Lib Dems abstained from the final queens speech motion and it passed 310-294.

Surely not. Even for them

Do those figures add up to a Lib Dem abstension?

LOL Lib Dems, SNP, both of whom were talked up as likely to support an early GE voting against it after all, Boris' bullshitter in a china shop approach effective as ever.

they are waiting for Charlie Mullins pony up some more dosh for their election war chest

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHp3L-KXUAAtbeE?format=jpg&name=large
Imagine being this much of a cunt.

SPEAK PROPAH ENGLISH YOU BLADDY JOCK

outside glasgows shite
xps

those old granite buildings in Aberdeen look amazing and like they will still be standing for thousands of years after human extinction.

(xp) It's the genuine Voice of Glasgow.

On coming home from work I turned on the TV just in time to hear Reeg-Moss in the Commons sniggering about how Scotland The Brave is now Scotland The Run Aways(?) and then invoking Agincourt in the next breath.

Reeg-Moss was a genuine mistake btw!

I can see why Reeg-Moss holds Scots in such disregard - Central Fife laughed him out of town in 1997.

I see MR Seumas Milne has been busy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHoGpxrXkAAc5gA?format=jpg&name=large

glad someone had the courage to say what we were all thinking

Only two LDs abstained btw. 11 Labour MPs, but some of them were paired.

Rees-Mogg was a genuine mistake

Hmmm…

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/24/majority-of-voters-think-violence-against-mps-is-price-worth-paying-for-brexit

This bot tweets voter profiles and some are really predictable, and then others less so:

I'm a 59 year old (CoE) woman, non-university-educated. Broxtowe 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿. News 📺

- Oppose wealth redistribution 💷
- Support private social care 💼
- ❗Police cuts have gone too far 🚓

I voted Leave in 2016 and Lab in 2017

— British Voter Bot 🤖 (@VoterBritish) October 20, 2019

I'm a 59 year old man, university-educated. Cynon Valley 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿. News 📺

- Brexit: reduces Britain's influence 🇬🇧
- Britain's most important issue is terrorism 🚨
- Brexit: worsens the NHS 🏥

Right ⏩ I voted Leave in 2016 and UKIP in 2017

— British Voter Bot 🤖 (@VoterBritish) October 23, 2019

I'm a 44 year old woman, non-university-educated. Sedgefield 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿. News 📺

- Support the death penalty ✔️
- Britain's most important issue is terrorism 🚨
- ❗Oppose EU integration 🇪🇺

V Right Wing ⏩ I voted Leave in 2016 and Lab in 2017

— British Voter Bot 🤖 (@VoterBritish) October 12, 2019

whaaaaaaa-...

NEW: Labour will REJECT the PM's offer of an early election. Jeremy Corbyn will announce tonight. Comes following an emergency meeting of his Shadow Cabinet.

— Matt Dathan (@matt_dathan) October 24, 2019

ffs bottling it

Or is this just “not until an extension is in the bag” again?

big dunty called it

Hold out for a bit. Make Johnson sit there with no bill and no election. Then give a speech on November 1st saying he's broken his promise and you call on him to offer an election and face the voters.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) October 24, 2019

Fuck it, what's the hurry for an election? We haven't seen Johnson squirm anything like enough yet.

Well I don’t trust parliament not to pass his withdrawal bill, which might lessen the squirming somewhat

you think they're going to pass it in the next 7 days?

it's a game of nerve now and i'm impatient for an election but the general rule is not to fight your enemy on the terms of his choosing

JUST GET ON WITH IT*

*insert most soothing referent here

No I misread tom’s “what’s the hurry” as meaning even further 🤪

turn them on the spit

if "the deadline for the UK to leave the EU has been extended beyond the 31st of October 2019":

LAB: 27%
CON: 26%
BREX: 20%
LDEM: 18%
GRN: 4%

if "the UK has left the EU with a deal similar to the one negotiated by Theresa May":

CON: 32%
LAB: 27%
BREX: 15%
LDEM: 17%
GRN: 4%

from ComRes last week, not saying it means anything but agree that seeing Boris squirm is fun and possibly the longer this goes on the weaker his appeal gets beyond his horrible constituency of hard brexiters and nasty thick Sun reader "he's knocking it out the park" types as seen on QT recently.

the longer this goes on the weaker his appeal gets beyond his horrible constituency of hard brexiters and nasty thick Sun reader "he's knocking it out the park" types as seen on QT recently.

― calzino,

Is this true tho? Can't read too much into the polls regardless of what they're saying. I'm kinda lost now, people here are 50-50 on an election being a good idea?

Is this true tho?

No.

the only difference between the two polls is 5% of the Brexiteers moving into the Tory column...?

xps

Take No Deal off the table and Labour will absolutely support an election. pic.twitter.com/O7DtNGaurJ

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) October 24, 2019

where does this idea, that a second referendum or new election will magically result in a clear 80-20% message from the people instead of the usual 49.9-50.1/with a statistical error of 5%, come from?

just trying to make sense (badly) of the wider PLP strategy beyond the loads of them that would rather see a hard right Britannia Unchained gov for 5 years than a Corbyn one out of pure bitterness. Lol seeing as I've desperately been wanting another election since a couple of months after the last one and I'm not so sure now, but things have have got much more complicated and fuck knows tbh!

where does this idea, that a second referendum or new election will magically result in a clear 80-20% message from the people instead of the usual 49.9-50.1/with a statistical error of 5%, come from?

referendum: smug FBPErs who think people were duped / ref stolen / old people dead / we know more now

election: idiots like me who are eternally optimistic

without the misplaced optimism you might start losing the will to ...

power?

lol

another fred you don't want to see!

The übermensch thrives on misplaced optimism.

I can’t see a LD vote holding up to near 20% in a post-exit world. They don’t have other policies!

Is this true tho?

Yes.

Cromblyn himself is dying for an election but it’s the wider PLP who won’t support one.

trust his political instincts over theirs

If it was just a bunch of whingeing Corbyn-haters but I'd put money on McDonnell being against an early election.