2020 Democratic presidential primary

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I could believe that Warren is the candidate who has the broadest appeal across the left spectrum, and across age groups.

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 22:56 (six years ago)

Here (Ontario) we tend to be cagey about it. At least historically.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:01 (six years ago)

I could believe that Warren is the candidate who has the broadest appeal across the left spectrum, and across age groups.

― Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Wednesday, October 23, 2019 5:56 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think this is it. bernie is the one who pushes the democratic coalition left. warren is the one who can capitalize on that while retaining some centrists. (im still voting bernie tho).

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:18 (six years ago)

Tim Ryan dropped out, idr who he is tbh

Simon H., Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:05 (six years ago)

he was the main guy who challenged pelosi for the speakership last year. i heard him on NPR around the time and it was clear within 10 seconds that he had no idea wtf he was doing

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:10 (six years ago)

I thought you were a Liz lad, bison. Maybe I’m confusing you with someone else

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:03 (six years ago)

go fuck yourself, you Gap-buying piss ant

In this @Cosmopolitan interview, @PeteButtigieg speaks favorably of the judgment of former Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy when discussing the potential for his own court picks as president. That is utterly disqualifying for me as a primary voter. https://t.co/HmH3wnewXf

— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) October 24, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:50 (six years ago)

does he even KNOW the careers of Justices Marshall and Brennan?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:50 (six years ago)

The idea here is you get more justices who think for themselves. Justices like Justice Kennedy or Justice Souter, and there are many legal scholars who think this could be done without a constitutional amendment under current law.

this is all?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:56 (six years ago)

Kennedy gave us Kavanaugh so he can eat shit in hell forever.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:58 (six years ago)

He could've named seventeen liberal justices other than the conservative flak who sanctioned his marriage but approved the travel ban, gutting the VRA, lent his name to Citizens United, etc.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:59 (six years ago)

ok but he was obviously going to name a conservative and a liberal

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:00 (six years ago)

hence the ire

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:04 (six years ago)

it pains me to say it again, but the boy Mayor is Worse Than Beto

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:11 (six years ago)

Buttigieg would make a wonderful liberal Republican, if we can stuff him into a time machine to 1972.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:32 (six years ago)

it's crazy to me that he's doing so well. First I heard of him was a glowing piece in the Atlantic (I think?) from last year.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:35 (six years ago)

raps gonna have to rely on siakam and anunoby this year

I thought you were a Liz lad, bison. Maybe I’m confusing you with someone else


i was! bernie’s made a more compelling case to me in the interim. she’s still my second choice and depending on where things stand in march when TX votes i may still vote for her.

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:39 (six years ago)

lol zing detritus from another post in draft but u feel me

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:45 (six years ago)

LGM:

On a related note, Elena Kagan had lunch with the law faculty here in Boulder yesterday, even as a couple of dozen Republican members of Congress were engaging in an overtly fascistic attempt to block the normal legislative process via the threat of violence, with the full blessing of the president and the House minority leader.

She spent about half an hour answering questions, and it was one of the most depressing public events I’ve ever attended. For one thing, Kagan spent a good deal of time showering fulsome praise on John Roberts and Anthony Scalia, as if those two men hadn’t played — and in one case very much continue to play — a key role in enabling the disgusting and disturbing spectacle unfolding inside the Capitol even at that very moment.

Yet not for one moment during the proceedings was there the slightest acknowledgement on anyone’s part that there might be anything problematic about the state of the nation, let alone the Supreme Court itself.

Of course Even the Liberal Elena Kagan basically agrees with Pete Buttigieg’s assessment of Anthony Kennedy’s jurisprudential legacy, so the ubiquitous air of self-satisfied complacency that marked our little soiree deep inside the Boulder bubble could hardly be considered a surprise.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:57 (six years ago)

for all the public affirmations of collegiality among the SC Justices, it's funny how absolutely no one - ever - has anything positive to say about Clarence Thomas.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:59 (six years ago)

I get why Kagan, who has to work with the rest of her life with conservative assholes like Alito and Gorsuch, not to mention newly minted centrist John Roberts, has to make nice. For a young feller like Buttigieg -- who grew up during the Bush II and Obama Years -- not to understand how much these people hate the fact that he likes the aroma of cock stuns me.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:05 (six years ago)

he is not very smart

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:06 (six years ago)

Sotomayor spoke to students at Vanderbilt University in Nashville and said the justices have mutual respect for one another, according to reports.

She cited Thomas as the colleague “with whom I probably disagree the most,” but spoke highly of his character.

“He knows the name of every single employee in the building,” Sotomayor told students, according to reports. “I can stand here and say I just love the man as a person. He has the same value toward human beings as I have, despite our differences."

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:10 (six years ago)

lol ok, there's a first time for everything!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:11 (six years ago)

For my part I have always had the utmost respect for Justice Thomas, and have greatly enjoyed discussing the sportsball with him on various social occasions

Pierre Delecto, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:16 (six years ago)

it pains me to say it again, but the boy Mayor is Worse Than Beto

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will),

It kinda helps Beto is the only person that thinks Beto is still running, and the Mayor guy is like The Mayor That Just Won't Flush, but above is true regardless

anvil, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:17 (six years ago)

yeah I've never heard a nasty word about Thomas as a person from colleagues.

Anita Hill and EEOC people will disagree.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:18 (six years ago)

Aroma of cock is my favorite Bongwater album

solos that go widdly widdly widdly (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:18 (six years ago)

It stinks.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:21 (six years ago)

The secret meaning of "the great unwashed"...

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

it's crazy to me that he's doing so well

You can smuggle a lot of privileged white male thru this gay trojan horse.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

I thought the justices had rules where they were not allowed to say anything materially critical about any of the other justices during appearances/interviews so all of that makes sense.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

yeah I've never heard a nasty word about Thomas as a person from colleagues.

it's not that they say nasty things, it's that most of the time it seems like he isn't referenced at all when it comes to being all chummy. As opposed to fishing trips with Scalia or whatever.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:23 (six years ago)

Those Toobin books about the modern SCOTUS era have lots of Thomas anecdotes, including his chumminess with clerks. I was creeped out when Toobin reported that Thomas kept a photo of a former clerk and her female companion on his desk, though.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:26 (six years ago)

I've got Corey Robin's Thomas book on reserve at the library.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:35 (six years ago)

Mayor Pete was always questionable, and the people on the left who correctly sized him up as a cynical careerist early this year deserve full credit, but even so, the speed and thoroughness of his selling out in the past few weeks has been breathtaking.

— David Klion🔥 (@DavidKlion) October 24, 2019

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

Once Tulsi cashes out, tho, he'll have that lane back to himself again, et al.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

You can smuggle a lot of privileged white male thru this gay trojan horse.

― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:22 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

surprising number of pals (well-educated rich gay dincs) who are totally in the tank for him (like, volunteering for the campaign and shit) who i would've totally expected to be bernie bros or warrenistas, was a little taken aback. like, ppl that are definitely into things like actual universal healthcare and seemingly just haven't scrutinized the Real Mayor that closely or something

gbx, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:52 (six years ago)

eric H otm. this has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with perspective and priorities

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:22 (six years ago)

I went out for drinks a few months ago with a law student who told me she was voting for buttigieg. reader, I ghosted her

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:22 (six years ago)

He has the same value toward human beings as I have, despite our differences

this statement is completely contrary to the practice of jurisprudence

j., Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:29 (six years ago)

eric H otm. this has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with perspective and priorities

― k3vin k., Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:22 PM

well, yeah, but don't underestimate the therapeutic uses of calling a guy stupid.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:31 (six years ago)

thought this was good
https://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3839&context=facpubs

also
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/essay/clarence-thomass-radical-vision-of-race

― Mordy, Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:32 PM (one hour ago)

corey robin was on jacobin radio discussing the book, was pretty interesting (though probably just goes over what's in that new yorker piece - which i haven't read) https://blubrry.com/jacobin/50969277/behind-the-news-corey-robin-on-clarence-thomas/

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:34 (six years ago)

Tulsi announced a bit ago that she's not running for re-election to the house. If she honestly believes she has a path to the Dem nomination, she's getting terrible advice. That's why it seems pretty clear she's about to embark on a third party candidacy. For whom? The Greens? The Libertarians? Dunno. But it's happening.

Either that, or she's going on the Fox News payroll.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 October 2019 04:43 (six years ago)

her not running for re-election counts as one win, at any rate.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 25 October 2019 12:19 (six years ago)

xp Tulsi Gabbard is not a libertarian though! Like her platform simply does not line up with that of the Libertarian Party. She seems like a Green Party candidate if anything

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Friday, 25 October 2019 12:24 (six years ago)

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/tulsi-gabbard/

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Friday, 25 October 2019 12:26 (six years ago)

maye I'm naive but I don't see her as a threat to Dems if she runs 3rd party. She has barely any actual support from Dem voters. She'd probably be more damaging to Trump.

akm, Friday, 25 October 2019 13:02 (six years ago)

there is 1 person i know specifically who would vote Tulsi on a 3rd party ticket in a heartbeat if anyone other than Bernie (or Tulsi!) were the Democratic nominee

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Friday, 25 October 2019 13:05 (six years ago)


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