did this get linked here?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/200025
i feel like we talked about in on ilx but i can't remember
― goole, Thursday, 18 June 2009 17:27 (seventeen years ago)
Oh god. I am currently working for an administrator in the state Department of Health and just fielded a call from a total luncatic ranting about the link between vaccinations and autism. This guy was completely fucking NUTS. Even as I repeatedly tried to explain that I wasn't the one he needed to speak with he kept going and said my boss was going to hide behind my skirt rather than listen to the truth. Towards the end he said he had a 19 year old son who has autism (:-( )because of the vaccines. I eventually hung up on him and feel bad but SWEET JESUS.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 25 September 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)
you could have said "no, sir, the reason your son has autism is because god hates you."
― my other display name is a controversial mod edit (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
Ha. He probably would have tried to save me. I think hanging up was the best decision even though I'm pretty sure that's not the recommended way of dealing wtih the crazies (of which there are TONS btw). He hasn't called back . . . yet.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 25 September 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, i think you did the best thing.
― my other display name is a controversial mod edit (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)
I don't know if he would fall into the same category of crazies/stalkers discussed in The Gift of Fear, but hanging up/refusing to engage is usually the best way to deal w/them.
― The ever dapper nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 25 September 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)
Yesterday security called because there was some man downstairs with a container of food that he said was contaminated and needed testing.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 25 September 2009 18:57 (sixteen years ago)
I was just glad they didn't let him up here tbh.
you could at least commend him for not being wasteful
― nabisco, Friday, 25 September 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/doctors-fire-children-parents-refuse-vaccinate.html
― how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 23 October 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)
fuck yeah
― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)
No shit they should.I'm being driven bonkers by my colleagues who won't get their flu shots. Actually got in a fight with an OT the other day. How can so many health professionals, who otherwise practice EBM, be so fucking stupid about vaccines?
― kate78, Friday, 23 October 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScGC7nFDxM
― johnny crunch, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:05 (sixteen years ago)
How can so many health professionals, who otherwise practice EBM, be so fucking stupid about vaccines?
lol when you work mental health you will hear people who're in a position to really affect patients' lives spouting all kinds of superstitious handed-down knowledge about which DSM dx's are "hopeless" etc, being a professional doesn't mean people absorbed ANY of the instruction imo it just means they got good at passing tests
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)
oh dear god the comments.
ovinizorro (58 seconds ago) Show Hide 0Marked as spamReply | Spamsucks sooooooo beutifull and youngjust becouse the stupid fluu shot we got to fight the luminati is doing all this shit
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)
so many video responses too...
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:19 (sixteen years ago)
it doesn't seem like there's any kind of confirmed link from the flu shot to the dystonia, but that cheerleader shit is pretty crazy.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:21 (sixteen years ago)
the luminati is doing all this shit
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:22 (sixteen years ago)
its sad i mean she cld have cheered for a pro football team all that waste dam u luminati
― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)
Babiberries (2 minutes ago)
she iz very pretty
no homo
ok which one of you wiseguys made me lol here
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)
hahahahahaha
― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:29 (sixteen years ago)
Burner2K0 (2 minutes ago) Show Hide -1Marked as spamReply | SpamAnother beautiful girl...RUINED BY SOCIETY!!!!
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:36 (sixteen years ago)
if only this could have happened to an ugly fat person!
― harbl, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)
how wld we even tell a difference??
― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:45 (sixteen years ago)
:?
― harbl, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:47 (sixteen years ago)
What a disaster for amazingly beautiful cheerleaders.
― ♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:48 (sixteen years ago)
MrTrueConservative (1 minute ago) Show Hide 0Marked as spamReply | Spamlol this board is full of nothing but liberals laughing and praising the suffering of another human being. Fox news dosnt celebrate the suffering of people like the liberal bias on you tube does. ---
Ok I'll stop for a while.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 23 October 2009 23:10 (sixteen years ago)
"she iz very pretty
no homo"
has kind of broken my ability to stop laffing
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 23 October 2009 23:47 (sixteen years ago)
People, especially upscale West Coast Americans, have developed this cult of food & body control, where everything that goes in must be rigidly controlled for nutritional, ethical and even spiritual reasons (often a tangle of the three). The self is validated and protected by the extent to which control is exercised, and is threatened to the extent that it breaks down. In some cases, the pathology is fantastically rigid, and the ingestion of even a tiny particle of meat or non-organic produce can become the most horrendous sort of physical/emotional violation.
wasn't this a todd haynes movie?
― amateurist, Saturday, 24 October 2009 01:44 (sixteen years ago)
Wired magazine has a nice cover story about "the Epidemic of Fear"
― kingfish, Saturday, 24 October 2009 02:56 (sixteen years ago)
Article online now: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience/all/1
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 29 October 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.zazzle.com/vaccine_fillers_thimerosal_mercu_customized_bumper_sticker-128656797762235700
― harbl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)
The follow up on the Dystonia cheerleader is pretty fascinating/outrageous/infuriating/etc., incidentally - she's now "cured" of all of her symptoms because of special treatments she got from an oft-discredited anti-vax figure named "Dr. Buttar" (i.e. she had basically just been suffering from a psychogenic situation, as had been diagnosed by everyone with any sense of reality):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD1BAxVnFdc&feature=player_embedded
hmmmm...this reminds me of back when spin magazine kept saying there was no connection between HIV and AIDS
Funny M@tt mentions this - I had been digging through some old Spins not too long ago and came across a few of these articles, (which I would have skipped over obliviously in the early '90s), and which are so fucking insane that one can't possibly believe they were printed in a national magazine. Anyway, the huge celebrity proponent of this HIV-doesn't-cause-AIDS movement was Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters, who played lots of benefit concerts organized by the now deceased Christine Maggiore. Reading these columns knowing Maggiore and her child would be dead 10 years later make them even crazier.
I guess the bass player (who was also in Sunny Day Real Estate) was the driving force of the band being involved - I'd be very curious to hear their take on this nowadays.
Agh, it's all so creepy.
― Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:17 (sixteen years ago)
I had been digging through some old Spins not too long ago and came across a few of these articles, (which I would have skipped over obliviously in the early '90s), and which are so fucking insane that one can't possibly believe they were printed in a national magazine.
It was kinda the big reason I avoided Spin during the late eighties/early nineties, honestly -- I realized I missed out on some wonderful music writing after the fact, but that whole ignorance they espoused with regard to AIDS did overshadow it.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:24 (sixteen years ago)
posted this somewhere else but--suzanne somers is also a celebrity nutjob:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-09/does-suzanne-somers-cause-cancer/
― max, Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:25 (sixteen years ago)
I realized I missed out on some wonderful music writing after the fact, but that whole ignorance they espoused with regard to AIDS did overshadow it.
Even at the time, I read the AIDS articles because they were just so unbelievably batshit that you couldn't believe they were printed in the same magazine as the rest of the writing.
― ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)
So wait. The cheerleader is fine now? I am totally going to go find all the "OMG FLU VACCINE KILLZZZZZZZZZZZ" posts from my many vaccine denying FB friends (I know a lot of hippies who grew up and had kids and now think that vaccines are evil and babies should have chiropractors and homeopathy isn't a load a crap) about this woman and rub their noses in it.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:41 (sixteen years ago)
Suzanne Somers, 63.http://www.foxnews.com/images/232619/0_61_suzanne_somers.jpg
― PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)
"Dr. Buttar" just fired his PA and tweeted about it. http://twitter.com/DrButtar
― PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)
she is very pretty (no homo)
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/355408732/Rashid_Smiling_Beach_2_bigger.jpg
― a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:52 (sixteen years ago)
Oh wait - it was a joke! Funny, funny guy.http://twitter.com/kimmyatdrbuttar
― PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:52 (sixteen years ago)
Shouldn't they be dealing with patients or something?
― PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:53 (sixteen years ago)
they are Ned--the tweets help "heal" people
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:53 (sixteen years ago)
@bikerkristy Hey Mom
in all honesty I stopped reading here
― a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:55 (sixteen years ago)
Watching Dr. Buttar and Abie practice their martial arts in our gym. Abie has a big tournament this weekend. 5:41 PM Nov 10th from TwitterBerry
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:55 (sixteen years ago)
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=9477472
nothing new or mindblowing, just jenny bein' jenny
― the bait vs. radrake david (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 05:20 (sixteen years ago)
Blerg. An old friend of mine posted that on Facebook, commenting that it was a "great example of a 'panel of experts' refuting a fact, seen in practice every day, because it adds fire to idea that vaccination can contribute to the onset of autism." Which is kind of confusing but I think he's saying that the "panel of experts" are refuting the "fact" that changes in diet impact autism because to find that changes in diet impact autism is to lend support to the idea that vaccines cause autism. Whatever. It's all so annoying.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:22 (sixteen years ago)
I couldn't make it through much of the piece, but it seems she's essentially saying "I disagree, because my child reacted differently to the diet"?
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:26 (sixteen years ago)
Yes. And because her child is autistic, while this "panel of experts" merely has PhDs and research experience and peer reviewed studies, she is in a better position to tell everyone what really works as a "cure" for autism.
(I'm scare quoting "cure" because many autistic adults or adults on the autism spectrum don't feel they need to be "cured," thankyouverymuch - http://www.autisticadvocacy.org/)
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:30 (sixteen years ago)