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sounds like Taylor's testimony is a big deal if it is being referred to as a sea change

Dan S, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

where is it referred to as a sea change? (no beck pics pls)

tobo73, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:43 (six years ago)

Rep. Lieu reportedly said that his opening statements were very damaging to the president. Rep. Lynch was quoted as saying it was a potential sea change in the impeachment inquiry

Dan S, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:48 (six years ago)

it's a sea org change

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:55 (six years ago)

Diarrhetics

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:57 (six years ago)

lyin' cheatin' thetans

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:59 (six years ago)

that's alll you seeem to dooowooooo

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:00 (six years ago)

Garrett Haake @GarrettHaake

“Members have described Bill Taylor’s testimony this morning as disturbing and very credible, backed up by “meticulous” contemporaneous notes he took during phone calls and meetings. Those formed the backbone of a lengthy opening statement.”

I guess they're still at it

Dan S, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:05 (six years ago)

About to post the same thing.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:07 (six years ago)

“All I have to say is that in my 10 short months in Congress — it’s not even noon, right — and this is my most disturbing day in Congress so far. Very troubling.” —Rep. Andy Levin, as he left Bill Taylor’s deposition this morning. ⁦@jesselnaranjohttps://t.co/fmegayyjl6

— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) October 22, 2019

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:08 (six years ago)

So a bunch of Democrats were disturbed?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:10 (six years ago)

Multiple House Democrats are now, not so subtly, suggesting that Gordon Sondland might have given false testimony. It's worth proceeding with caution for now, mostly because it would just be so so incredibly stupid for Sondland to have actually lied under these circumstances. https://t.co/hsTuKlCrj2

— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) October 22, 2019

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:11 (six years ago)

This is exactly why they are running things like a grand jury in private. Can't coordinate testimony, which makes it much harder to get away with obvious lies.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:21 (six years ago)

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:26 (six years ago)

.@RepMalinowski says Taylor “remembered some things that previous witnesses somehow failed to remember.”

— Ben Siegel (@benyc) October 22, 2019

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:30 (six years ago)

Debbie is terrible but

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., said Taylor "drew a straight line" with documents, timelines and individual conversations in his records at the hearing.

"I do not know how you would listen to today's testimony from Ambassador Taylor and come to any other (conclusion) except that the president abused his power and withheld foreign aid," she said.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:34 (six years ago)

So a bunch of Democrats were disturbed?

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:10 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgttPt_1IG0

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:41 (six years ago)

The senior U.S. diplomat in Ukraine said Tuesday he was told release of military aid was contingent on public declarations from Ukraine that it would investigate the Bidens and the 2016 election, contradicting President Trump’s denial that he used the money as leverage for political gain.

Acting ambassador William B. Taylor Jr. testified behind closed doors in the House impeachment probe of Trump that he stands by his characterization that it was “crazy” to make the assistance contingent on investigations he found troubling.

Upon arriving in Kyiv last spring he became alarmed by secondary diplomatic channels involving U.S. officials that he called “weird,” Taylor said, according to a copy of his lengthy opening statement obtained by The Washington Post.

Taylor walked lawmakers through a series of conversations he had with other U.S. diplomats who were trying to obtain what one called the “deliverable” of Ukrainian help investigating Trump’s political rivals.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:48 (six years ago)

Taylor said he spoke to Ambassador Gordon Sondland, the U.S. envoy to the European Union.

“During that phone call, Amb. Sondland told me that President Trump had told him that he wants President [Volodymyr] Zelensky to state publicly that Ukraine will investigate Burisma and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election,” Taylor said in the statement.

Former Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter had been a board member of Burisma, a large Ukrainian gas company. Joe Biden is a 2020 Democratic presidential candidate.

“Amb. Sondland also told me that he now recognized that he had made a mistake by earlier telling the Ukrainian officials to whom he spoke that a White House meeting with President Zelensky was dependent on a public announcement of investigations — in fact, Amb. Sondland said, ‘everything’ was dependent on such an announcement, including security assistance,’” Taylor told House investigators.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:49 (six years ago)

“He said that President Trump wanted President Zelensky ‘in a public box’ by making a public statement about ordering such investigations.’

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:49 (six years ago)

GOP noise machine gonna go into overdrive re: how this testimony is not credible, he's a Democrat, conspiracy etc etc

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:50 (six years ago)

Look, Trump is a man of incredible moral scruples that it physically pains him to hear about possible corruption. He will do ANYTHING to stamp it out. It just so happens that the 2 most corrupt people are his 2016 opponent in Prez election and 2020 possible opponent in Prez election. In fact, these 2 have committed p much the only acts of corruption worthy of being investigated by the US.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:54 (six years ago)

Starting to think this guy might not be on the level

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:58 (six years ago)

Taylor's full statement is here.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:27 (six years ago)

Trump could appear on TV naked and the Freedom Caucus would insist that wasn't his hairy ass.

I care more about the voters being swung by this. Which seems is happening.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:28 (six years ago)

http://www.belge.com.tr/uploads/2018/12/03/abd-baskani-trump-abdnin-silah-yarisina-716-milyar-dolar-harcamasi-cilginlik-b.jpg

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:00 (six years ago)

Bwaaaaaaaaa!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:07 (six years ago)

You know he's taking the towels and bathrobes when he leaves.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:07 (six years ago)

The next administration needs to do a video walkthrough on move-in day because the keyboards are going to be full of glue, fish in the percolators, you name it. It's going to make the recent Alabama sheriffs' story look tame.

Galangal Baker (WmC), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:57 (six years ago)

The next administration needs to do a video walkthrough on move-in day because the keyboards are going to be full of glue, fish in the percolators, you name it.

Nobody on his team is smart enough for that. At most, they'll leave a pile of his used diapers in the middle of the Oval Office rug.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:02 (six years ago)

They're mean as fucking snakes, that trumps smarts. DJT himself will upper-deck the toilet nearest the oval office.

Galangal Baker (WmC), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:09 (six years ago)

fuck, I sound like treeship, god dammit

Galangal Baker (WmC), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:09 (six years ago)

so I guess they're not wrapping up by Thanksgiving

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:01 (six years ago)

Will make for extra fun family time for some of us.

Beware of Mr. Blecch, er...what? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:03 (six years ago)

Scalise:

"Maybe in the Soviet Union, this is how they conduct hearings."

Y'know, dude....

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:04 (six years ago)

Glad you're making the most of your second chance at life

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:05 (six years ago)

fuck, I sound like treeship, god dammit

― Galangal Baker (WmC), Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:09 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

judging by your posts before this one, you're confusing me with bizzaro gazzara and neanderthal

treeship., Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:22 (six years ago)

Wait which one was me

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 03:15 (six years ago)

so if they did impeach AND remove before the election, would he still be elgiible to run and win re-election?

because maaaaan

j., Wednesday, 23 October 2019 17:56 (six years ago)

yes

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 17:56 (six years ago)

although I think the terms of conviction can include being barred from office

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 17:56 (six years ago)

barring from office would require a separate vote

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 18:00 (six years ago)

if/when he’s out he’s gonna need a LOT of lawyers

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 18:12 (six years ago)

if he were removed (still dont see it), weren't a dozen of the GOP primaries cancelled already?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 18:19 (six years ago)

no need - they can always vote for the man who on at least one occasion had sex with Mother

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 18:21 (six years ago)

yeah I don't think removal is gonna happen either. Even peeling off a couple GOP votes (Romney, Murkowski, Collins, Gardner) seems like a really big challenge.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 18:23 (six years ago)

Pretty sure there will be no removal and I am also not sure I want one. Damaged, deranged, infuriated, unhinged, he will be so much easier to beat. Make the dead-ender Cult 45 folks just go down with the ship. Don't give them the easy out of another candidate.

solos that go widdly widdly widdly (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 18:41 (six years ago)

Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law.

article 1, section 3, clause 7

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

Beginning last April, BuzzFeed News has pursued five separate Freedom of Information Act lawsuits to pry loose all the subpoenas and search warrants that Mueller’s team executed, as well as all the emails, memos, letters, talking points, legal opinions, and interview transcripts it generated. In short, we asked for all the communications of any kind that passed through the special counsel’s office. We also requested all of the documents that would reveal the discussions among Attorney General Bill Barr, former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, and other high-ranking officials about whether to charge President Donald Trump with obstruction.

Justice Department lawyers said the volume of records at issue could total 18 billion pages and could take centuries to produce.

At a hearing earlier this month, US District Court Judge Reggie Walton was not sympathetic. “It shouldn’t fall on the backs of the citizens to wait years to find out what the government is up to,” he said. If the Justice Department couldn’t handle the request in a more timely fashion, he added, it should ask Congress for money to hire more help.

Today, in response to a court order, the Justice Department has released the first installment of documents: 500 pages of summaries of FBI interviews with witnesses, available here for the first time. Another installment will be released every month for at least the next eight years.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/mueller-report-secret-memos-1

many americans had trouble finding the time to read the executive summary of either volume of the mueller report (7 pages for vol 1, 6 pages for vol 2). in response, i would like to ask my fellow americans to please take the time to look at about 500 pages of fbi interview summaries, released every month for the next 8 years or so

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 2 November 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

hey man i'd like to do my part but i'm no devin nunes

j., Saturday, 2 November 2019 17:12 (six years ago)


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