Yes.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:01 (six years ago)
When is the vote on programme motion?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:04 (six years ago)
Reportedly after 7 pm.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:06 (six years ago)
No to PM on the spreadsheet went down by 1 whilst I was out.
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:16 (six years ago)
Peter Oborne withering on the way the BBC allow anonymous govt spokesppl to play them and thus to mislead the public
― mark s, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:41 (six years ago)
Gloria De Piero, MP for Ashfield, says she is also minded to support the Brexit bill “not because I support the deal, but because I don’t”. She says she wants to opportunity to amend it in parliament.
LOL we're all... you know the rest
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:50 (six years ago)
“not because I support the deal, but because I don’t”.
lol this is crackers
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:51 (six years ago)
I'm afraid that's he calibre of MP the Labour Party is saddled with at the moment.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:53 (six years ago)
... and this.
Labour’s Don Valley MP, Caroline Flint, who has said she will vote for the WAB, asks for reassurance that the bill will protect the climate emergency. Johnson says: “I can make that commitment.”
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:55 (six years ago)
Sounds legit.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:56 (six years ago)
He's a man of his word, you see.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:57 (six years ago)
He's known for his strong commitment ... ask his ex-wives, mistresses and unacknowledged children.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:58 (six years ago)
I suspect the climate emergency will have nothing to worry about, all sunlit uplands as far as the eyes can see.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:59 (six years ago)
speaking of the climate emergency, here's some great news for the uk economy
The UK is planning to invest in Argentina’s controversial oil shale industry using a £1bn export finance deal intended to support green energy, according to government documents seen by the Guardian.UK Export Finance, the government’s foreign credit agency, promised in 2017 to offer loans totalling £1bn to help UK companies export their expertise in “infrastructure, green energy and healthcare” to invest in Argentina’s economy.Instead official records, released through a freedom of information request, have revealed the government’s plan to prioritise support for major oil companies, including Shell and BP, which are fracking in Argentina’s vast Vaca Muerta shale heartlands.One government memo, uncovered by Friends of the Earth, said that while Argentina’s clean energy sector was growing, it was “Argentina’s huge shale resources that offer the greatest potential” for the UK.
UK Export Finance, the government’s foreign credit agency, promised in 2017 to offer loans totalling £1bn to help UK companies export their expertise in “infrastructure, green energy and healthcare” to invest in Argentina’s economy.
Instead official records, released through a freedom of information request, have revealed the government’s plan to prioritise support for major oil companies, including Shell and BP, which are fracking in Argentina’s vast Vaca Muerta shale heartlands.
One government memo, uncovered by Friends of the Earth, said that while Argentina’s clean energy sector was growing, it was “Argentina’s huge shale resources that offer the greatest potential” for the UK.
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:02 (six years ago)
i was just about to ask how the apparent narrow majority in favour of the WA turns into a majority against the programme motion but i guess the House contains some very deep thinkers
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:03 (six years ago)
You can think the bill should move on, but not at breakneck speed
― stet, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:08 (six years ago)
Isn't the programme motion about leaving by the 31st which pushes debate time down?
The Lab MPs and the like of Rory Stewart want to vote for Johnson's deal, but they also want to be seen to have made a considered choice, which means it is to vote by Nov sometime xp
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:10 (six years ago)
The problem for Johnson is that he will break his promise, so he is threatening to pull the bill. Not sure whether he will actually do so.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:12 (six years ago)
i can see the sophist arguments for the two positions but in realpolitik you either take *every* opportunity to block the thing or you're a feeb
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:12 (six years ago)
they're essentially wanting to perform the semblance of scrutinizing the fucker but really they've already "reluctantly" decided to pass it, and the performance is not gonna endear to them to the section of the electorate they seem to want to appease by passing the deal
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:14 (six years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHfKo-WWwAEBgbz?format=pngFamiliar choice of colours
― gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:29 (six years ago)
big blobby energy
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:35 (six years ago)
They are spamming their own timeline with a range of these, all deliberately(?) terrible. Gets them looked at and talked about (any publicity) I guess.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:36 (six years ago)
Indeed
Fixed that for you, CCHQ...#WithdrawalAgreementBill pic.twitter.com/4yppl6xeMP— Rt Hon Sir Peter Mannion KCB MP (@PeterMannionMP) October 22, 2019
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:36 (six years ago)
Dick Braine won't be happy.
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:38 (six years ago)
Dominic Cummings pandering to the Blobby lobby.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:38 (six years ago)
on newton's colour theory wheel they are complimentary colours, yet they still give me a headache.
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:49 (six years ago)
otm. They posted one in Comic Sans about quarter of an hour ago and now 'Comic Sans' is trending on Twitter
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:57 (six years ago)
In response to these points, a BBC spokesperson yesterday said: “While our journalists always prefer on-the-record quotes, there is a well-established practice in politics of reporting information from unnamed sources to give audiences a greater sense of what is going on in Westminster.“Laura Kuenssberg is a fantastic journalist who helps audiences make sense of the Brexit story with her in-depth analysis and expertise.”
“Laura Kuenssberg is a fantastic journalist who helps audiences make sense of the Brexit story with her in-depth analysis and expertise.”
I want whatever strong drugs bbc spokesperson is on
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:00 (six years ago)
i dunno man, drugs strong enough to make laura k seem like a fantastic journalist seem like they'd be pretty risky
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:08 (six years ago)
Elsewhere:
Moments with Mr. Kissinger, former Prime Ministers Tony Blair and John Howard, Ms. Condoleezza Rice and Mr. Robert Gates. Excellent discussions with these global thought leaders. pic.twitter.com/OPBheNkpPe— Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) October 22, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:10 (six years ago)
https://swlibrarian.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/return-of-the-jedi-final-scene.jpg
― nashwan, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:12 (six years ago)
find a lover who will longingly gaze at you like how Modi does at Kissinger
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:20 (six years ago)
What sort of body count are we guessing between those guys?
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:24 (six years ago)
on the day the picture was taken alone, or cumulatively
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:28 (six years ago)
they're all taking the piss out of Modi for his relatively poor numbers
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:29 (six years ago)
the No's column on that spreadsheet has just gone down by another one.
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:36 (six years ago)
Letwin now supporting the plan to push the bill through. Never trust a Tory.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:41 (six years ago)
thought he always said he was supporting the WAB
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:42 (six years ago)
Yes, but now he's supporting rushing it through with little or no scrutiny. The hope was some of these ex-Tory Tories would vote to prevent that.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:45 (six years ago)
Oliver Let Win
― Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:53 (six years ago)
Etymologically it just means 'the Lithuanian'.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:55 (six years ago)
.@lisanandy taking some flak. But this highlights the sometimes counter intuitive complexity of the different readings. I recall I voted at 2nd reading for A50 in hope 3rd reading could be sufficiently amended. It wasn’t so I voted against and resigned. Not always straight fwd. https://t.co/OUFHYC0L2w— Clive Lewis MP (@labourlewis) October 22, 2019
― gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:00 (six years ago)
Letwin is saying the bill is a lesser evil and might be pulled if program motion is voted down, wouldn't it getting pulled be good seeing as it's got NDB 2020 springloaded into it and loads of other bad shit - i don't see how delaying a smack in the gob and a later series of kickings makes it a lesser problem.
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:02 (six years ago)
― gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:04 (six years ago)
Yeah, it's a variant of Litwin (pronounced Leetvin or something like that), which means 'Lithuanian' in Polish.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:06 (six years ago)
this was a very welcoming and open country - back in the days of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth!
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:13 (six years ago)
I work on Operation Yellowhammer. We all know what we’re doing is for show
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/22/operation-yellowhammer-brexit-preparations
Signed, a civil servant. Graun publishing this rn sinks all my hopes they have something hotter on BJ.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:15 (six years ago)
keir hardie loved the lithuanians:
"For the second time in their history Messrs. Merry and Cunninghame have introduced a number of Russian Poles to Glengarnock Ironworks. What object they have in doing so is beyond human ken unless it is, as stated by a speaker at Irvine, to teach men how to live on garlic and oil, or introduce the Black Death, so as to get rid of the surplus labourers."
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:16 (six years ago)
xps to pom, interesting, reminds me of
Yet many of our top politicians are of French origin. The name Cameron comes from Cambernon in Normandy, Corbyn from Corbon in Calvados and Farage is a French Huguenot name.Only the Lib Dems’ Tim Farron can claim to have authentic old English heritage. His surname means “good-looking servant”.
― gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:21 (six years ago)