PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Good morning, sad to report that Lisa Nandy is at it again.

https://labourlist.org/2019/10/lisa-nandy-why-we-should-vote-for-the-brexit-bill-at-second-reading/

was that Towns Fund bribe all it really took to turn her or has she been on the yellow smarties again?

Politics is nothing if not the hard graft of negotiating through difficult choices in the interests of the many. The rest is protest.

total Blairite speak there

Protest is inherently at odds with the interests of the many? That makes no sense whatsoever.

thing is she sometimes contradicts herself by saying the exact opposite of that, she is very much a weather-vane as they say.

yeah but is it tho

The 110-page bill was published on Monday evening – and the chancellor, Sajid Javid, has said he does not intend to carry out an economic impact of it, because it is “self-evidently” in the UK’s interests to end uncertainty about Brexit.

I'm sure nandy sees it as calling for realism to get ppl round the table. being MP of wigan is an unenviable job and I suspect this is a p honest representation of how a lot of ppl there feel. I don't really know how she's supposed to persuade her constituents, who have voted labour for a hundred years, have been fucked for decades, and no one seems to care about. being consulted on how things get worse clearly sounds p good to a lot of ppl

This is the clause which enables no deal:

Clause 30 of the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill. What happens if the Government doesn’t propose an extension? Parliament would have no say and we would exit the transition period on the 31 Dec 2020 even if a trade agreement hadn’t been reached by then with the EU; ie no deal. pic.twitter.com/mbCAsrX0eB

— Hilary Benn (@hilarybennmp) October 21, 2019

wtf there's a 31 dec 2020? just don't tell me i don't want to know

I've always said people are often way too reductive when speaking of death.

🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 It's actually worse than this, since UK must agree to extend transition in by July 1 2020.

But we only paid up Dec 31 2020, so that is going to mean new negotiation on 💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶

Now. Consider the timetable... 1/Thread https://t.co/TBVcgR3P6h

— Peter Foster (@pmdfoster) October 22, 2019

what could possibly go wrong

profiles in courage

The Labour MP, Jim Fitzpatrick, says he has not read the bill, nor has he tried to... but will be voting for it.

Perhaps that doesn’t matter. The MP for the London constituency of Poplar and Limehouse elaborated on this position to the BBC’s Victoria Derbyshire, telling her that this was a vote in principle.

“I will have read it by seven o’clock tonight I hope. I will be studying it this afternoon,” he added.

Reading is bad don't do it Jim!

My understanding is that the WAB contains the Nandy/Snell amendment that was tried for May's WA, whereby parliament will need to "approve the government’s future negotiating mandate and any final trade deal with the EU, as well as obliging the government to report back to parliament every three months" - which is a clear and clearly successful attempt to buy her vote amongst others.

updated w programme motion and CU
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13ghQytueisTWtO12HXvCSyRV_LnPGlDJob8rJWLVKe8/htmlview#

Smeeth and Snell sound like names that fictional Victorian grave-robbers would have.

I'm a simple man, all I want is a flowchart with a pop-art explosion behind a square box reading "Sinn Féin take their seats!"

Sounds like Rory is against programme motion

We need to protect parliamentary democracy by respecting BOTH the sovereignty of parliament AND the referendum. That means delivering a deal with proper process + scrutiny. Ramming through the bill will further undermine confidence in our institutions. We must do this properly. https://t.co/fJIzqrwywN

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) October 22, 2019

Apols, is that spreadsheet a voting projection for BJ's bill?

Yes.

When is the vote on programme motion?

Reportedly after 7 pm.

No to PM on the spreadsheet went down by 1 whilst I was out.

Peter Oborne withering on the way the BBC allow anonymous govt spokesppl to play them and thus to mislead the public

Gloria De Piero, MP for Ashfield, says she is also minded to support the Brexit bill “not because I support the deal, but because I don’t”. She says she wants to opportunity to amend it in parliament.

LOL we're all... you know the rest

“not because I support the deal, but because I don’t”.

lol this is crackers

I'm afraid that's he calibre of MP the Labour Party is saddled with at the moment.

... and this.

Labour’s Don Valley MP, Caroline Flint, who has said she will vote for the WAB, asks for reassurance that the bill will protect the climate emergency. Johnson says: “I can make that commitment.”

Sounds legit.

He's a man of his word, you see.

He's known for his strong commitment ... ask his ex-wives, mistresses and unacknowledged children.

I suspect the climate emergency will have nothing to worry about, all sunlit uplands as far as the eyes can see.

speaking of the climate emergency, here's some great news for the uk economy

The UK is planning to invest in Argentina’s controversial oil shale industry using a £1bn export finance deal intended to support green energy, according to government documents seen by the Guardian.

UK Export Finance, the government’s foreign credit agency, promised in 2017 to offer loans totalling £1bn to help UK companies export their expertise in “infrastructure, green energy and healthcare” to invest in Argentina’s economy.

Instead official records, released through a freedom of information request, have revealed the government’s plan to prioritise support for major oil companies, including Shell and BP, which are fracking in Argentina’s vast Vaca Muerta shale heartlands.

One government memo, uncovered by Friends of the Earth, said that while Argentina’s clean energy sector was growing, it was “Argentina’s huge shale resources that offer the greatest potential” for the UK.

i was just about to ask how the apparent narrow majority in favour of the WA turns into a majority against the programme motion but i guess the House contains some very deep thinkers

You can think the bill should move on, but not at breakneck speed

Isn't the programme motion about leaving by the 31st which pushes debate time down?

The Lab MPs and the like of Rory Stewart want to vote for Johnson's deal, but they also want to be seen to have made a considered choice, which means it is to vote by Nov sometime xp

The problem for Johnson is that he will break his promise, so he is threatening to pull the bill. Not sure whether he will actually do so.

i can see the sophist arguments for the two positions but in realpolitik you either take *every* opportunity to block the thing or you're a feeb

they're essentially wanting to perform the semblance of scrutinizing the fucker but really they've already "reluctantly" decided to pass it, and the performance is not gonna endear to them to the section of the electorate they seem to want to appease by passing the deal

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHfKo-WWwAEBgbz?format=png
Familiar choice of colours

big blobby energy

They are spamming their own timeline with a range of these, all deliberately(?) terrible. Gets them looked at and talked about (any publicity) I guess.

Indeed

Fixed that for you, CCHQ...#WithdrawalAgreementBill pic.twitter.com/4yppl6xeMP

— Rt Hon Sir Peter Mannion KCB MP (@PeterMannionMP) October 22, 2019

Dick Braine won't be happy.

Dominic Cummings pandering to the Blobby lobby.

on newton's colour theory wheel they are complimentary colours, yet they still give me a headache.

They are spamming their own timeline with a range of these, all deliberately(?) terrible. Gets them looked at and talked about (any publicity) I guess.

otm. They posted one in Comic Sans about quarter of an hour ago and now 'Comic Sans' is trending on Twitter

In response to these points, a BBC spokesperson yesterday said: “While our journalists always prefer on-the-record quotes, there is a well-established practice in politics of reporting information from unnamed sources to give audiences a greater sense of what is going on in Westminster.

“Laura Kuenssberg is a fantastic journalist who helps audiences make sense of the Brexit story with her in-depth analysis and expertise.”

I want whatever strong drugs bbc spokesperson is on

i dunno man, drugs strong enough to make laura k seem like a fantastic journalist seem like they'd be pretty risky