PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

All eyes on the programme motion now

?! I thought the deal was voted down on Saturday

they didn't vote on the deal on saturday because before the deal was voted on an amendment to the deal was voted on, and passed, which required the prime minister to write to the european commission asking for an extension until january 31st

what happens if the programme motion goes down?

CU amendment looks DOA

Hear whole Tory One Nation grouping agreed tonight not to back customs union amendment

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) October 21, 2019

needs a lot of the 89 who abstained last time (including the SNP) to back it

WAB is what Caitlin Moran calls boobs.

My constituency is OxWAb!

I haven't paid any attention to anything today and I'm not sure I can bear to start now. I guess I've reached the stage everyone else reached 3 years ago and decided that "just getting on with it" was the way out of that stage. *twitches*

RIP CU amendment, you were what once seemed like still a pretty fucking hard Brexit and was now seeming like the softest possible Brexit, and now you're not even a possible Brexit?

Is it really the first time the whole withdrawal agreement bill has been published? We never saw May’s right?!

they didn't vote on the deal on saturday because before the deal was voted on an amendment to the deal was voted on, and passed, which required the prime minister to write to the european commission asking for an extension until january 31st

I'm so confused

You'm not the only one

I find I have a better sense of what's going on when I read articles about Brexit in the French press, because they assume their readers are complete dummies in this regard (which I still very much am).

The Lords aren’t going to rush this shit through lbr.

RTÉ’s coverage is generally very good - here’s a piece about today that explains what the fuck is happening

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2019/1021/1084790-brexit-timeline/

Btw, the British press isn’t treating its readers as knowledgeable, it’s got no interest in making Parliament easy to understand.

I don't think it's over yet and no way before 31 Oct without outrageous shenanigans

xp. yeah the british press is just shitty. there was a laura k tweet today "For a small niche subset of the population, this bill being published at 6ish tonight is going to be extremely exciting .. we never saw Theresa May's WAB, despite months of hot anticipation". how nice for you to be in the wee club of people in the know laura.

that sean whelan article explains it better than anything I've seen in the british press

Be great if she could stop licking her lips at Boris for one second and do her fucking job

This is very short but gives a bit of info comparing the deals

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit-countdown/2019/1019/1084375-brexit-explainer/

Laura K/Laura K parody accounts - the bbc could save themselves a few hundred k a year there, but probably unfair to single her out when she is just one layer of the fucking rotting corpse.

take that back actually, she's fucking awful and deserves even more pelters than she currently gets

Good morning, sad to report that Lisa Nandy is at it again.

https://labourlist.org/2019/10/lisa-nandy-why-we-should-vote-for-the-brexit-bill-at-second-reading/

was that Towns Fund bribe all it really took to turn her or has she been on the yellow smarties again?

Politics is nothing if not the hard graft of negotiating through difficult choices in the interests of the many. The rest is protest.

total Blairite speak there

Protest is inherently at odds with the interests of the many? That makes no sense whatsoever.

thing is she sometimes contradicts herself by saying the exact opposite of that, she is very much a weather-vane as they say.

yeah but is it tho

The 110-page bill was published on Monday evening – and the chancellor, Sajid Javid, has said he does not intend to carry out an economic impact of it, because it is “self-evidently” in the UK’s interests to end uncertainty about Brexit.

I'm sure nandy sees it as calling for realism to get ppl round the table. being MP of wigan is an unenviable job and I suspect this is a p honest representation of how a lot of ppl there feel. I don't really know how she's supposed to persuade her constituents, who have voted labour for a hundred years, have been fucked for decades, and no one seems to care about. being consulted on how things get worse clearly sounds p good to a lot of ppl

This is the clause which enables no deal:

Clause 30 of the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill. What happens if the Government doesn’t propose an extension? Parliament would have no say and we would exit the transition period on the 31 Dec 2020 even if a trade agreement hadn’t been reached by then with the EU; ie no deal. pic.twitter.com/mbCAsrX0eB

— Hilary Benn (@hilarybennmp) October 21, 2019

wtf there's a 31 dec 2020? just don't tell me i don't want to know

I've always said people are often way too reductive when speaking of death.

🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 It's actually worse than this, since UK must agree to extend transition in by July 1 2020.

But we only paid up Dec 31 2020, so that is going to mean new negotiation on 💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶

Now. Consider the timetable... 1/Thread https://t.co/TBVcgR3P6h

— Peter Foster (@pmdfoster) October 22, 2019

what could possibly go wrong

profiles in courage

The Labour MP, Jim Fitzpatrick, says he has not read the bill, nor has he tried to... but will be voting for it.

Perhaps that doesn’t matter. The MP for the London constituency of Poplar and Limehouse elaborated on this position to the BBC’s Victoria Derbyshire, telling her that this was a vote in principle.

“I will have read it by seven o’clock tonight I hope. I will be studying it this afternoon,” he added.

Reading is bad don't do it Jim!

My understanding is that the WAB contains the Nandy/Snell amendment that was tried for May's WA, whereby parliament will need to "approve the government’s future negotiating mandate and any final trade deal with the EU, as well as obliging the government to report back to parliament every three months" - which is a clear and clearly successful attempt to buy her vote amongst others.

updated w programme motion and CU
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13ghQytueisTWtO12HXvCSyRV_LnPGlDJob8rJWLVKe8/htmlview#

Smeeth and Snell sound like names that fictional Victorian grave-robbers would have.

I'm a simple man, all I want is a flowchart with a pop-art explosion behind a square box reading "Sinn Féin take their seats!"

Sounds like Rory is against programme motion

We need to protect parliamentary democracy by respecting BOTH the sovereignty of parliament AND the referendum. That means delivering a deal with proper process + scrutiny. Ramming through the bill will further undermine confidence in our institutions. We must do this properly. https://t.co/fJIzqrwywN

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) October 22, 2019

Apols, is that spreadsheet a voting projection for BJ's bill?

Yes.

When is the vote on programme motion?

Reportedly after 7 pm.

No to PM on the spreadsheet went down by 1 whilst I was out.

Peter Oborne withering on the way the BBC allow anonymous govt spokesppl to play them and thus to mislead the public

Gloria De Piero, MP for Ashfield, says she is also minded to support the Brexit bill “not because I support the deal, but because I don’t”. She says she wants to opportunity to amend it in parliament.

LOL we're all... you know the rest

“not because I support the deal, but because I don’t”.

lol this is crackers

I'm afraid that's he calibre of MP the Labour Party is saddled with at the moment.

... and this.

Labour’s Don Valley MP, Caroline Flint, who has said she will vote for the WAB, asks for reassurance that the bill will protect the climate emergency. Johnson says: “I can make that commitment.”

Sounds legit.