PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Look who voted against the amendment:

https://data.parliament.uk/membersdataplatform/services/images/MemberPhoto/4137/

might have been tempted to think that grey blur was Dominic Grieve, but he didn't vote against it. Frank Field?

It's what the people of Dudley would've wanted

Come on, have you forgotten what he looks like already - it's Rory Stewart of course!

omg wanderin' Rory Stewart!

don't make me post the supermarionation jpg

(amphibian) profiles in courage

bestpic.jpg strikes again!

I cannot stand Jo Swinson's horrible Anglo-Scottish vowel sounds.

In the sense that she comes across as a self-hating Scot?

Quote of the day goes to @PeterBoneUK: “I'm fed up. It’s been a complete waste of time. And it’s spoilt my birthday because it’s my birthday today.”

— Chris Morris (@BBCChrisMorris) October 19, 2019

Not to encourage this practise but there’s a thread title in there

In the sense that she comes across as a self-hating Scot?

No I just hate that accent, you sometimes hear from Scots who have been living in England for a long time and have Anglified their vowel sounds accordingly, either intentionally or unintentionally ... you also hear it from straight-up wankers like Fraser Nelson.

Michael Gove?

Well he is in the wanker camp, for sure.

No I just hate that accent, you sometimes hear from Scots who have been living in England for a long time and have Anglified their vowel sounds accordingly, either intentionally or unintentionally

I'd wager such shifts are subconscious at least 95% of the time. My (Canadian) accent has changed slightly since I moved here, although I could never go full Orson Welles.

I'm sure it isn't intentional in the vast majority of cases, I really do hope Kevin Gallacher doesn't pronounce the word 'now' that way deliberately, for instance. The problem of course is that English people (claim they) can't understand you so you're forced to tone the accent down just to get through a day with blowing a gasket every two minutes.

It's a little hard going for North Americans because it's not an accent we're routinely exposed to but if I were a Scot living in England I'd never tone it down. They don't need a fucking interpreter.

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ppl who understand what i'm talking abt can fuck off

Same but mostly that's not the accent

I work with a Swedish women who has a sort of Anglo-Swedish accent and I hate her accent too - I like her though! So maybe I just don't like accents that fall between two stools. I notice Bjork seems to have gone back to having a nice Icelandic accent having had a hideous hybrid accent for a long time.

In my experience, European ESL teachers are generally beholden to the notion that BBC English is the sole correct variant, so their students follow suit.

All accents are good

my younger kids are in an English language international section at their public French high school/middle school, where they take the regular courses in French and then have lit and history courses in English. their English-language teachers are Irish, Scots, and English. our kids are American and speak accordingly, but in order to get the highest marks in courses, and on the concours for the grands écoles, have to learn to speak BBC English (well, they call it Economist English).

hopefully after Brexit we'll all switch to Irish English, the nicest sounding version imo.

our kids are American and speak accordingly, but in order to get the highest marks in courses, and on the concours for the grands écoles, have to learn to speak BBC English

Sad. I remember discussing this with a Frenchwoman who had lived in London for a few years before moving back to Paris to teach ESL at the lycée level, and her overt contempt for non-BBC English and sociolinguistics in general was an eyerollercoaster.

every esl child should be taught to speak in the manner of ian paisley imo

ulster says no

W. B. Yeats or gtfo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLlcvQg9i6c

He's working those r's like no-one's business.

Yeats barely sounds Irish to me - might be class, might be time he lived (had an old English teacher who pronounced “poem” like he did, with two syllables).

every esl child should be taught to speak in the manner of ian paisley imo

I went to a language school in either Brazil or Argentina (iirc), a few years ago, where the teacher had studied in Belfast and was passing on a noticeable NI accent to all the kids.

(xp) Sounds like someone trying to do a Scottish accent tbh.

Ascendancy!

_every esl child should be taught to speak in the manner of ian paisley imo_


I went to a language school in either Brazil or Argentina (iirc), a few years ago, where the teacher had studied in Belfast and was passing on a noticeable NI accent to all the kids.

Meet the Syrian primary school pupil so good at languages he's been acting as an interpreter for his classmates 🗣https://t.co/PNNlAv4sEA pic.twitter.com/K2fWhViEVG

— BBC News NI (@BBCNewsNI) May 26, 2019

The intro gives you a slightly better sense of Yeats's accent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2FT4_UUa4I

But I agree that it doesn't sound very Irish.

omg, <3 xxp

Can we have the video now?

I voted against the Letwin amendment. Parliament now meets again Monday to debate the new deal. Will post a video over the weekend laying out my thinking.

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) October 19, 2019

Mad props to Mohammed btw.

Like right this sec xp

Yeats still sounds pretty Scottish to me.

I know what he sounds like, he just doesn’t have a very representative accent.

Agree. I don't get this at all:

Yeats “had a very distinctive Irish country accent, from Sligo,” noted Patrick McAfee, a visitor earlier this month.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/arts/design/20dwye.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHP1K7sWsAQgaJv?format=jpg&name=large
Oh no

lol yeats sounds way more irish than I would have expected. I grew up around a lot of people with similar sounding accents (very affected, galway).

Maybe it’s a class thing? But he has that sort of stilted sounding speech that makes it difficult to tell (for me anyway).

I thought Dev would sound like that, but he actually sounded like any auld lad.

lots of guys who hang around trad pubs and quote kavanagh have that accent regardless of class origins. I don't think there's a large enough residue of that kind of aristocracy to account for it, its pure fiction for the most part, but Yeats is of a very different class settlement than exists now.

gyac thank you for posting the video of that tremendous boy, I salute him

Ditto.