PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Some Spartans frustrated at Sammy Wilson / Ian Paisley Jnr / Nigel Dodds counter-whipping operation trying to get them to oppose the deal

One says Wilson in particular is being “annoying” and is hell-bent on no-deal

Sammy annoying? Hard to credit tbh.

fwiw this is simon richards's votecount spreadsheet (aka twitter's @simonk_133, account currently locked): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13ghQytueisTWtO12HXvCSyRV_LnPGlDJob8rJWLVKe8/edit#gid=0

if he's right -- he's EXTREMELY circumspect about it! -- the deal goes down by 1

lol and now a tidier attempt:
fwiw this is simon richards's votecount spreadsheet (aka twitter's @simonk_133, account currently locked):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13ghQytueisTWtO12HXvCSyRV_LnPGlDJob8rJWLVKe8/edit#gid=0

if he's right -- he's EXTREMELY circumspect about it! -- the deal goes down by 1

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That spreadsheet with the deal losing by 1 vote seems to have Jared O'Mara down as voting against, but he's surely not going to turn up, so...

...I don't think I can bring myself to finish this sentence. I'm going to look out of the window, maybe there are some good ducks or pigeons out there right now

So it looks like it comes down to 13 Kinnock Letter Labour MPs - which includes the dreaded Skinnock himself.

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look mum and dad, I'm a very important Labour MP for a day!

Not saying get your hopes up BUT

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-parliaments-50098128

The Letwin amendment. A serious problem for the Govt, as would allow wavering Labour and Tory MPs to kick the can down the road rather than decide tomorrow. pic.twitter.com/zdlRq02OhT

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) October 18, 2019

Good thread on removal of whip. I guess in this kind of vote it might not matter

Not at all confident here, but I think I may be right in saying that no Labour MP has lost the whip for voting against the whip for more than 50 years.

— Lafargue (@Lafargue) October 18, 2019

have to say i'm thrilled about the prospect of this deal squeaking through tomorrow and then us crashing out with no-deal next year after the stories spend 12 months pissing in their own mouths instead of doing anything constructive

The who is doing what on that s/s will change as well. Lab as well as Tories

@simonk_133 on various potential issues with his spreadsheet

Here are a few calls that seem to me right now to be most uncertain:
- will any ERG vote no (atm I'm saying none)
- size of Labour yes vote (the biggest unknown I think)
- Preference of whipless anti-no deal Tories
- Norman Lamb
- Will Jared O'Mara turn up
- Lab/ex-Lab Lexiters

re: withdrawing the whip. on the one hand, it's possible they're still needed in the tent, for now. on the other hand, any opportunity to purge the cunts.

Yeah definitely, but you can see Corbyn's rationale. It will be used against Labour but it's whether that stick or not.

yeah and it would almost be premature while the numbers are on this knife-edge. no point using the threat if it's counterproductive or ineffective, can always quietly get rid of them later

The truth is out. Michael Gove and Dominic Raab are telling Tory hardcore Brexiteers that the "deal" is a gateway to No Deal. pic.twitter.com/gh1RLa49jZ

— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) October 18, 2019

welp, there it is

waverers can't say they weren't warned

what kind of consequences are there for the border if this is true?

No idea but it might be delayed anyway because of Letwin

only shit yourself if Letwin fails.

Sarah Champion has come out in favour of the deal. Should have had whip withdrawn years ago for her scummy Sun article, but I’ll settle for deselection.

i dunno but i have a feeling they will be... bad xp

not sure if the Letwin amendment helps anything but certainly not my heart/brain at this point

(xxp) She wasn't one of the signatories of the Kinnock Letter and didn't vote for May's deal. Great.

i.e. not mentioned in the spreadsheet, so Boris is ahead now?

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Champion was on that letter, according to Simon's s/s

look i know what the answer to this is, but if there's a single Tory Remainer not rotten to the core with moral cowardice they know what they're voting for now

Oh right, didn't notice, still ahead now though?

(xp)

not sure if the Letwin amendment helps anything but certainly not my heart/brain at this point

Myth building about Jeremy Corbyn

A thread

— Jon Worth (@jonworth) October 18, 2019

Well not all 18 have declared xps to tom

bitter lol at that jon worth thread, people are so fuckin weird about corbyn

that's because this all Corbyn's fault, as leader of the opposition he shd've had A50 renounced years back

just put 'corbyn liverpool' into twitter and am now surely dead

good post, thx for sharing yr thoughts neil

If the rumours about Corbyn being in Liverpool tomorrow and missing the vote are true????....I'm speechless. But perhaps they are unfounded #StopBrexit

— Neil Dickinson (@neil_dickinson) October 18, 2019

The internet was a mistake.

Merde-stirrer Macron now saying he doesn't think the EU will grant an extension. Juncker, Macron, Fred all desperate for Brexit to be over, no matter the consequences for the UK.

Bad cop iirc.

One of the kinder things said about Fred on this board.

So who wants the deal to pass tomorrow?

I don't know if I do or not.

Tbh almost everyone in Europe is fed up with the UK at this point.

So who wants the deal to pass tomorrow?

I don't know if I do or not.

Fuck no. We need catharsis

Just stickin' around to see the Benn Act kick in tbh. Lock him up! Lock him up!

Come on now, BJ gets a victory and ties us into his idea of brexit forever? that can all fuck the fuck off.

when is the actual vote?

Tomorrow.

super saturday

Parliament sitting from 9.30-2 tomorrow btw

Understand Labour will support the Letwin amendment - which makes it likely to pass.
Would force Johnson to request an extension tomorrow; and mean we won't get a clean, up-and-down vote on his deal.

— Heather Stewart (@GuardianHeather) October 18, 2019