US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

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Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 18 October 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link

They just want to maximize the damage first and also don't want to appear as if they were bullied into it by the White House.

but that's also kind of weird, right? if it's advantageous to get republican senators on the record as supporting (or opposing!) trump on an impeachment inquiry, wouldn't it also be useful to have house republicans on the record, since it's even more difficult to flip those districts? if it's obviously heading toward impeachment, why not do it now?

hopefully it will just be two days, but the window might be closing if it becomes so obvious that even safe house republicans realize they're supporting an ongoing criminal presidency

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 October 2019 01:35 (four years ago) link

One of those rare swing state polls with a competitive senate race shows Hickenlooper beating incumbent GOP Sen Gardner 53-42%, which resembles support for impeachment (54-43%), with unaffiliated voters backing it 61-34%.

Trump’s fav/unfav: 38-60%https://t.co/6lvJ0dilDj

— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) October 18, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link

Keep up dude

El Tomboto, Friday, 18 October 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link

you expect me to bookmark a thread sober?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link

"OMG...what if the GOP backs President Dumpsterjuice all the way down the line and winds up losing both the WH and a shitload of Senate seats?"

that's the hope

akm, Friday, 18 October 2019 02:11 (four years ago) link

sounds cool except there will probably be some massive new recession to deal with

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link

At this point in our politics, a massive new recession and a landslide win in 2020 for Democrats, especially with Bernie or Warren at the top of the ticket, would be FAR preferable to eking out the WH and not taking the Senate. Among other things, a massive new recession will bite the south and southwest hard enough they might form some new local majorities in favor of M4A, debt forgiveness, and strengthening some other basic social programs.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

oh, I forgot the Green New Deal on that list.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link

Crises beget opportunities

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 October 2019 02:52 (four years ago) link

the more things change

https://i.imgur.com/qPeHZSF.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 18 October 2019 03:04 (four years ago) link

I'm wary of engaging in preemptive schadenfreude but it really would be a beautiful self-own if the GOP wound up sowing the seeds of their own destruction because they bet all their chips on Donald fucking Trump.

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 October 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link

A hell of a lot of voters voted for Donald fucking Trump in 2016 I just hope to god about 10% of them are feeling heavy remorse about now. The polls indicate that at least 85% of Republicans are willing to go down with the ship, even if DJT is steering the country straight at every iceberg in sight.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 18 October 2019 03:31 (four years ago) link

Trump can dominate the Republican vote and get his ass kicked. The key is turnout for Dems and converting indie voters.

Indie voters largely disapprove of Trump now...but that doesn't mean they'll vote against him. Or at all.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 October 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link

how are the dems are going to ensure turnout though, even with all of this criminality I'm not sure I see it

Dan S, Friday, 18 October 2019 03:39 (four years ago) link

They did in 2018.

In 2016, many foolishly assumed a Clinton thrashing and stayed home because they "couldn't bring themselves to vote Clinton".

They won't do that in 2020.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 October 2019 03:41 (four years ago) link

definitely heard a lot of "oh shit, I probably should've voted" on Nov 10 2016

frogbs, Friday, 18 October 2019 03:43 (four years ago) link

How long did the repubs have to trash Hillary? It’s going to take Fox News / Republicans a solid decade of smearing to come anywhere close to the volume of work they put towards Clinton.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 18 October 2019 03:45 (four years ago) link

you're right they smeared her for 24 years straight before the 2016 election

Dan S, Friday, 18 October 2019 03:49 (four years ago) link

The only way the Dems could run someone less popular is a Weiner candidacy.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 October 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link

Feel the wein

Weinmentum

seek out the dark forces and join their hellish crusade (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

Weiner takes all

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

It's Weiner O'Clock Somewhere

Françoise, Laurel, and Hardy (K. Rrosé), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

Weiner: Because Americans love pricks.

Morning Consult finds that “Republicans representing Colorado, Arizona, North Carolina, Maine and Iowa all saw their net approval — the share of voters who approve of a senator’s job performance minus the share who disapprove — decline between the second and third quarters of 2019.” Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) and Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), who could not manage to tell us whether it is wrong for the president to enlist a foreign government to influence our elections, are down 9 points and 3 points, respectively.

Ernst is in particular trouble. “The slide places her underwater with Iowa voters (39 percent approve and 43 percent disapprove) for the first time and among the 10 most unpopular senators in the country,” the polls found. “Iowa voters of all partisan leanings soured on the first-term senator, but GOP voters were most likely to take a dimmer view of her job performance. Her net approval dropped by 13 points among Republicans, compared with respective 9- and 7-point drops among Democrats and independents.” Uh-oh.

Ernst is not alone. “Ernst is not the only Republican up for re-election next year with a home-state approval below 40 percent: Among the vulnerable incumbents, Martha McSally of Arizona, Cory Gardner of Colorado and Thom Tillis of North Carolina are all below that threshold following a quarter where each saw little movement.”

Meanwhile, vulnerable Democratic incumbents are rising in polls. Sens. Gary Peters (D-Mich.) and Doug Jones (D-Ala.) are up 1 points and 3 points, respectively. If these sort of numbers persist, or get even worse for Republicans, Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) will lose his majority.

would've assumed Doug Jones was toast tbh

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 October 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

let me just check the nypost weiner pun log (https://nypost.com/tag/anthony-weiner/)...somehow prick isn't on there! nice :)

xp

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

Prick up your ears! Weiner's coming!

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

-three dog night

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

Luckily for those republicans whose Trump support is causing their approval to tank, those two weeks before the election when they abruptly turn on the dude should be enough time for voters to forget all about their former complicity.

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

feel like breaking from Trump would cause their approval to tank even more

frogbs, Friday, 18 October 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

A real shame that "Scandal Dogs Weiner" wasn't the go-to headline on every paper.

Françoise, Laurel, and Hardy (K. Rrosé), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

Hopefully this is the beginning of a trend

Wow. GOP @RepRooney says he thinks Pelosi "has a point" when she said that with Trump, all roads lead to Russia.

"I was skeptical of it like most Republicans were, but I gotta say this business about the Ukraine server ... tells me, what, are we trying to exculpate Russia?" pic.twitter.com/CGXKxTO3m9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 18, 2019

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

Erdogan tells news conference the letter sent by Trump telling him not to be a ‘tough guy’ wasn’t in line with diplomatic or political customs. He said they wouldn’t forget the lack of respect. “When the time comes necessary steps will be taken”

lmao

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

follow the polling xp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

Is...is it possible, maybe, that the democrats aren't simply partisan communist witch-hunting enthusiasts? I'm beginning to wonder if some of Mr. Trump's utterances might not be entirely on the level.

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

I thought only Trump was allowed to renege on a deal.

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

lolsob at Erdogan responding to "don't be a tough guy" with "I will, in fact, be the toughest tough guy who ever toughed"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

Do we even have one ounce of legitimate leverage against Turkey at this point? Besides the strongly-worded letters of an illiterate?

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

well there's always the international community

j., Friday, 18 October 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

good one

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 October 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

You mean besides Russia, right? Still amusing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 October 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

While " Get over it " nicely captures the essence of the Trump administration, I still prefer Ron Ziegler's " That statement is no longer operative "

It had a Nixonian elegance that Trump's catspaws can never hope to match

— John Cleese (@JohnCleese) October 18, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

It's so adorable watching Kevin McCarthy, Meadows, and Jordan whine like anybody gives a fuck

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

Turkey needs to be kicked out of NATO and the UN. Again, everyone is such a goddamned pussy I don't expect them to do it.

akm, Friday, 18 October 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

What part of Mulvaney's briefing did you not understand? He very clearly said "get over it", but none of you are taking him at his word!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

Mattis made some joeks

Former Defense secretary James Mattis responded to President Trump calling him “the world’s most overrated general” during a meeting with congressional leaders Wednesday.

At the Al Smith Memorial Foundation dinner on Thursday, Mattis opened his speech with a caustic blow about Trump's deferment from the draft during the Vietnam War.

"I earned my spurs on the battlefield; Donald Trump earned his spurs in a letter from a doctor” he said.

The general continued on with more Trump references, stating, “I’m not just an overrated general. I’m the greatest, the world’s most overrated." Mattis was the keynote speaker at the 74th annual event.

"I'm honored to be considered that by Donald Trump because he also called Meryl Streep an overrated actress. So I guess I'm the Meryl Streep of generals, and frankly that sounds pretty good to me,” Mattis continued.

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 October 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

fuck him and his impotent zingers

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

I'll take my allies where I can find them tyvm

Book Doula (sleeve), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link


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