PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

This wiki page is good for an up to date list of MPs not standing next time btw: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_United_Kingdom_general_election

Over on FB some of his former colleagues are *spilling* BEB.

Just sharing because I absolutely love to see it, thanks #bbcqt pic.twitter.com/9gHFtOVuRd

— William Kedjanyi (@KeejayOV2) October 17, 2019

Yr ordinary white working class Brit argument making Gerry Adams’s own points for him, he can’t buy this kind of recruitment!

lol, incredible

imagine being interested in politics enough to join the audience of question time and to make a point to the panel but not interested enough to actually think about exploring exactly what the whole issue with the border and the backstop and all that stuff people have been banging on about constantly for more than three years

i am also in favour of making Ireland the whole of Ireland again tbf

i too stand with this hooting question time moron

I loved, loved the boos. Really all time

enjoying Matt Hancock nodding sagely at this guy

Is Chuka Ummuna really on the radio giving Labour MPs a lecture on loyalty to the Labour Party or am I still asleep and just having a weird dream

— Gloria De Piero (@GloriaDePiero) October 18, 2019

it's definitely come to something when Gloria De Piero is otm!

that pensive look from Matt Hancock on QT is me when I'm thinking hmm..what sandwich today

Me when I’m wondering “did the kitten fart or does she have shit stuck in her tail again”?

if I was to try to profile the QT moron I'd guess he works as a contracts manager for Pimlico Plumbing.

pretty sure breaking up the union is the Will of the People now

Johnson's deal will be a wrecking ball through the lives & well-being of ordinary people across Britain. Labour MPs cannot and must not vote for it. If they do, the NEC will have no choice but to replace them with a new, socialist Labour candidate at the next election

— Jon Lansman (@jonlansman) October 18, 2019

HE'S READY

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Johnson has never given a stuff about NI and the union so this shouldn’t really come as a surprise to anyone.

I love it when Lansman is in a ain't taking no shorts mood

so far most of the talk i've heard about Labour melts has been from right wing pundits and sounds more like wishful thinking than serious trouble on the horizon but it's going to be some kind of a weekend whatever and good luck UK Former Rump Nations of the UK England and Wales

Johnson has never given a stuff about NI and the union so this shouldn’t really come as a surprise to anyone.

Very much the default for a member of the Conservative (& Unionist) Party I'd say.

When is the vote tomorrow scheduled for?

HE'S READY

oh god i read some comments tho :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEbkJsLXoAASyVF?format=jpg&name=small

some local Tories I'm silently stalking for the lol Yorkshire Gothic Lynchian imagery, 2nd left Beth Prescott unsuccessfully stood against Paula Sherriff in '17.

i thought you had to be 18?

ban these sick cults

another one for the 'faces you see when you wake up hanging from a meat hook' file

he Labour MP John Mann has predicted that “more than nine” of his parliamentary colleagues will vote for Johnson’s deal on Saturday.

The Bassetlaw MP told RTE radio on Friday morning he would be voting for the Johnson deal with other prepared to risk the Labour whip and join him.

“I think there will be more Labour MPs [voting for the deal] than British media have been speculation this morning,” he said adding that this was because these MPs saw no deal as a worse option.

He told the Sean O’Rourke show that Labour MPs who were saying the deal would erode workers rights were “wrong” because it would be up to parliament to confirm anything set out in the political declaration in the next set of negotiations for a trade deal. If parliament wanted to “reduce workers rights”, then “more fool them” he said.

'yeah we'll open the door to creating a usa-style hellscape for powerless workers crushed by draconian new at-will employment laws but we're hoping that we won't then let corporations march right through it, it'll probably all be fine'

I think he's right though, enough Labour MPs will vote for the deal for it to pass.

what a heartbreaking loss John Mann is to the Labour movement

anybody who says they're voting for this deal because otherwise it'd be no deal is a liar, a moron and a cunt

oh yeah, me too, just grimly amused by his awareness of exactly what they're signing up for and what it will almost inevitably mean for workers despite the figleaf of 'oh gee whiz i hope it won't happen!' xxp

"it would be up to parliament to confirm anything set out in the political declaration in the next set of negotiations for a trade deal"

is this true? I thought the political declaration would not (necessarily) be ratified by parliament, and trade deals don't go through parliament? For that matter what about those Henry VIII powers to bypass parliamentary scrutiny; when can they be used? Sorry for silly questions.

And of course our Tory-stuffed parliament will definitely not do anything to reduce anyone's rights even if it does get a vote, sure, yes.

anybody who says they're voting for this deal because otherwise it'd be no deal is a liar, a moron and a cunt

especially since angela merkel has said this morning that an extension would be unavoidable if the deal is voted down

There are plenty of all three in the PLP, of course.

John Mann is on the right of the party and afaict a fair chunk of the people he’s talking about are on the left - entirely possible for Corbyn & McDonnell to sway them I’d say.

Mann isn't even in the party any more

so there may be some ulterior motives behind his bullshit

John Mann, what a hideous piece of shit.

John Mann is on the right of the party and afaict a fair chunk of the people he’s talking about are on the left - entirely possible for Corbyn & McDonnell to sway them I’d say.

The people he's talking about are not on the left, afaict.

May give him an adviser on antisemitism role before she was gone.

There was about five Lab MPs who voted for May's deal last time, right?

yeah this is what i thought, a few more who signed this letter to the EU tho? the numbers are all speculative and nobody speculating is impartial

Pretty sure Mann is referring to the Skinnock Krew.

19 or 20 of them apparently? And, yes, I could definitely see them voting for the deal.

yeah, the 19 allegedly Pro Any Deal Labour MPs, but when you look at the number of those with nothing to lose, like Mann that number drops sharply. would love to see how the horse-trading is going.

even if they aren't expelled - and ffs why not? - i don't think handing Boris Johnson a victory and potentially a victory General Election is going to do much for their prospective future Labour careers

banter heuristic has kind of always demanded that centrists do Brexit tho