HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

yeah i feel like a lot of those indicators were early season 1 -- and i at the time remember thinking it was gonna be a different arc & type of plot that it ultimately ended up being

i think brian cox said in that interview originally they were going to kill off logan at the end of s1

Interesting article here that talks about the Logan mastermind theory:

https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/10/16/20915933/succession-season-2-finale-twist-logan-kendall-this-is-not-for-tears

And has an incidental paragraph that explains the utility of Holly Hunter’s character

i think the show intentionally leaves it in the no-mans-land between 'logan hatched a plot' & 'logan smiled for some quotidian reason'; logan was obviously proud, he was obviously pleased w the outcome on at least one level, he hoped it would happen but knew kendall had to figure it out for himself...not sure how *conscious* it was of a "plot" by him, the word "plot" implies that he was really trying to set it in motion when i think the truth is probably somewhere closer to 'intuited it could happen'

'created the possibility for it to happen if his son was who he hoped he was'

agreed on all counts

right, but he's also been trying in his own nasty way to inspire kendall to be a killer his whole life. it wasn't part of a calculated plan, just logan doing what he always does.

Kendall Roy what's on your awesome headphones while you plan to kill you father

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north american scum!

just finished this last night after marathoning all weekend . Great fucking show!!!

uh yeah he was playing that when he took them off xp

i know, was mostly commenting that it was a hilariously appropriate choice

i think he's listening to 'a christmas fucking miracle' by run the jewels

Tom eating Logan's chicken was awesome btw

fuck so many amazing scenes in this show though

and yet i feel like hardly anyone knows about it

it's awfully popular!

i'm sure i just slept on it myself but no one i know irl watches it

It's extremely difficult to get people irl to watch it ime

my mom binged the first season in two days

it's awfully popular!

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses)

Yeah to me it seems to have penetrated the collective cultural consciousness with startling speed - people irl are throwing around the character names without first referencing the show they're from already.

this show is so good

so many hard to watch scenes tho.

kendall's rap :s

at least once a week i find myself morosely thinking "L to the OG...."

haha.

finished season 2 last night. wow.

“look it’s a succession”- me pointing to a helicopter flying over nyc

— Catherine Cohen (@catcohen) October 18, 2019

tru

i was in the financial district of my city last week during the day on friday and i was seeing the dudes in their vests and stuff and just feeling like i was surrounded by succession people

saw that James Murdoch, of the News Corp Murdochs, is supporting Buttigieg and I had a big Succession moment

kendall says he's voting buttigieg, actually votes for trump

This show is incredible. Wasn’t even aware of its existence until two weeks ago. I’m not deeply clued into the TV landscape, but are people watching this? Visibility seems shamefully out of proportion to the quality of it.

That weekend retreat at the Pierce compound was maybe one of the best episodes of television I’ve seen. Penultimate Season 2 ep in DC, particularly Shiv talking the woman out of testifying, was some gut-level primal horror.

Really impressed by the entire execution of this. Doing a lot of things and doing them all very well.

I haven’t read this read this thread yet, watching the final season 2 ep now.

Finished S2 yesterday : great season, even better than S1, and that final ep was amazing.
so many great moments over the season but a few higlights come to mind : the Pierce/Roy families interactions, Roman and the hostages situation, Ken's rap, Ken's speech during the Senate hearing, Shiv's conversation with the witness...
And Tom & Greg are such a great comedy duo !
I agree that the whole Rhea situation was not satisfying (how it started, how she got so fast to the top, how she left...).
Marcia's "conversation" with her was great though.
Also, some of Logan's decisions over the season didn't seem very logical/convincing considering his charachter.
Sad to have to wait for such a long time until the next season...

Rhea was qualified to become the CEO and could easily have been given the job in the timeframe of the series (there's like a month between each episode maybe?) And totally within her rights to walk away at the clusterfuck she'd inherited.

did she fuck Logan though ?

brian cox says no, the characters shiv and roman say yes.

he urinated on her shoes

. I’m not deeply clued into the TV landscape, but are people watching this?

Everyone who works in media is.

SOLD.

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— Eliot Brown (@eliotwb) December 11, 2019

heh yeah let's do this

as long as neumann has no input and gets no money, i'm in

Brian Cox. Cookie Monster. Two titans finally meet to discuss business....and cookies. #Sesame50 pic.twitter.com/l6zOiK6iPP

— Mashable (@mashable) November 15, 2019

i mean it's on hbo why not use the music

I finally got around to watching this show. holy fuck, so good.

The idea that anyone thinks Logan and Kendall colluded in thge last episode is absurd for all the reasons that vox article lays out; people are ruined by other TV shows I guess. This show is more like Mad Men than Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad.

The masterstroke of this show is that it can make me feel sympathy for completely loathsome people. Fuck, even Tom is sympathetic in that last episode. I'm quite glad Kendall did what he did though. He's the only person I'm rooting for and the only person who probably actually has a soul.

https://ew.com/tv/2019/12/11/succession-cast-entertainers-of-the-year/

CULKIN: There are some funny fan theories [about the finale]. I’ve been taking general [business] meetings and finding out halfway through, “Oh, the only reason why you wanted to take this meeting is so you can geek out about the show and give me your fan theory.” I had this one meeting where the guy had friends who had a fan theory that he thought was bulls—. When he told me [their theory], I said, “Yeah, that’s bulls—.” He goes, “Do you mind if I take a video of you saying it’s bulls—?” So I took a video of me saying it’s bulls—, and when I left I was like, “Oh, I feel like such a whore.” His theory was that all the kids were in on Kendall’s decision.

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Finally got around to binging this. Great finale. Honestly they could end the show right there if they wanted to.

The wayward son finally learning that he can only earn his father’s respect by becoming his enemy...that’s such a satisfying trajectory.

Same here - finally binged watch this whole series over the last couple of weeks. So so good. Amazing pacing, each episode seems to end on the sweetest of mic drops.
Curious about Greg's narrative arc in all this - did he turn because of his moral queasiness and/or granpa Ewan's threats? Or did he just realise that he was destined to remain expandable Greg sprinkles?

Greg.ory, please.

Curious about Greg's narrative arc in all this - did he turn because of his moral queasiness and/or granpa Ewan's threats? Or did he just realise that he was destined to remain expandable Greg sprinkles?

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 3:37 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

a combination, i think, plus some affection for kendall, the only roy who treats him kinda like a person.

Greg may turn out to be the secret protagonist.