would never excuse violence and I do overall sympathise with the cause, but all those XR posters around town saying "Summer rebellion - take two weeks off work!" maybe lends us some clue as to the fact that some of the XR team may not understand the lives of normal people who have to go to work every day in stressful and uncomfortable circumstances and aren't privileged enough to be able to take 2 weeks off whenever they want to stop people getting to work. maybe they don't realise some people on those tubes will have their pay docked, or will get a ton of shit for being late
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link
otm
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link
for the zero hour precariat there is often a very thin line between struggling to get by and going under, just arriving half an hour late to work can have disastrous knock on effects for some people.
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:35 (four years ago) link
Are they really that stupid though?
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:35 (four years ago) link
(xp)
I don't necessarily agree with the tactic or argument but some are clearly going to argue 'fuck your job that you hate anyway none of this shit matters, millions will die because of CC'. I don't know what would persuade a minority to tailor their disruptive choices in light of that.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:37 (four years ago) link
By the way, remember Brexit? Boris has just Got It Done.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link
Phew so glad to move onto other priorities now.
― stet, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link
RIPDUP?
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:41 (four years ago) link
No, they're on board with it.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:41 (four years ago) link
Holy shit here we go
They vote it down = election timeCowards and wankers combine to get it thru = jump on Barmston drain time
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link
Dup have just up middle fingered the deal
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link
Hold up. DUP say their statement from this morning (that "gaps remain") still stands!— Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor) October 17, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:45 (four years ago) link
When you don't even have the guts to admit you've been in the Labour Party your whole life but you hate socialism
Any evidence of this in her voting record? Honest question. She doesn't like Corbyn for sure, but I don't think that's the same thing. Getting rid of MPs out who have increased turnout and have huge majorities (even if we are talking about Liverpool)doesn't seem like an election winning tactic to me. Calling them pieces of shit seems, erm, unnecessary.
― Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link
Basically, switch your phones off for a couple of hours xp
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link
It's not getting through Parliament without the DUP and I don't think there are enough Labour MPs willing to risk losing the whip for something that's obviously DOA.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link
Great news for Ellman's constituents at the new hard border.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link
thrilled to be alive three years after the referendum in a country hurtling towards a vitally important deadline and we still haven't got a fucking clue what's going on
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link
Sub-normals? That's nice.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link
Junckers and Johnson have both announced it as a done deal - but it seems they did so without telling Sammy Wilson first.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link
This is a good point but yeah only a bunch Kinnocks can get this deal through:
Counterintuitive though it may seem, Johnson pissing away his majority through expulsions means the DUP have less leverage over Brexit than they did. Johnson needs to find votes from across the house.— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) October 17, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link
ah, different telegraph. *nevertheless*and xyz otm about switching phone off for a couple of hours. (should have done it for three years.) still hard to see how this doesn’t breach DUP and crucially DUP supporters’ red lines, and without them hard to see where the numbers come from.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link
Seems like the deal is not really meant to be passed but is to be a election campaign plank less toxic than “vote for us for no deal”
― stet, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link
I expect all the purged Tories who haven't joined other parties to vote for it, that'll bump the numbers up.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link
"Calling them pieces of shit seems, erm, unnecessary."
so you are saying people can't express contempt for duplicitous right wing Labour politicians that use Guido Fawkes to slur anyone on the left, and yes her voting record is wretched. And I don't really care what you think after reading your indecipherable nonsense on YouGov yesterday.
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link
Yeah they'll vote it and swiftly be allowed back in. Meanwhile Labour lose a few more like Ellman.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link
gotta purge 'em all
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
This is a summary of her voting record
Louise Ellman thought being a Labour MP meant voting for at least two bloody, pointless wars, voting to create privately run prisons for migrants, voting for economically illiterate PFI schemes, voting for Atos to supervise the disabled . She may have poor judgement.— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) October 16, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link
she seems nice
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link
cracking lass if you are a billionaire who owns one of the PFI behemoths, not so good if you are disabled or poor.
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:06 (four years ago) link
Suggestion is the EU will help Boris out by saying it's this deal or no deal. Helping out their fellow right wing arsehole there.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:07 (four years ago) link
look lads as Nelson Muntz once pointed out you've gotta nuke something
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link
except parliament has legislated to oblige BJ to avoid no deal so the EU can fuck off, unless they’re saying they won’t extend
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link
Didn't they say that about the May deal as well?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link
Probably!
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link
Consistently
Kinda painful to admit that the clown Johnson was in some small way right
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link
Lol BBC News using their best wicked witch picture of Arlene
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link
I note with a sad roll of my eyes that Hard Left Brexiteer Trot Crumbum has described this new deal as "shit"
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link
How many hours/wads of cash before the DUP caves?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:19 (four years ago) link
Ooh Jo Swindon just described the deal as "fucking shit"
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link
Is it established this is May's deal only worse for UK or at least NI? It gets Johnson hailed as statecraft legend by the media sewer for a while regardless.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link
surely there's no way he'll agree to Referendum 2: Gammon Boogaloo just to get the deal thru?
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link
Emily Bishop reacts to news that her nephew Spider was the ring leader of this morning’s disruption at Canning Town’ pic.twitter.com/TpXKIY3Ddw— Phil Blundell (@PhilBlundell) October 17, 2019
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link
lol
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link
Good thread with insights into XR:
The last time I did a thread about an XR action in my city being terrible for disabled people, I got a lot of abuse, but also several nice people telling me in good faith to try engaging with them.— M *honk* (@pancake_puns) October 17, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link
And I don't really care what you think after reading your indecipherable nonsense on YouGov yesterday.
Well you could have told me this yesterday instead of letting me go on and on. Jeez.
― Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link
― Fizzles, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link
The Tories throwing the DUP under a bus after using them to stay in office since the election is fucking funny, I must admit.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link
Of course.
Nigel Farage backs extension and a general election over PM’s deal— Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) October 17, 2019
― Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link
haha some energy that
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 17 October 2019 11:05 (four years ago) link