https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/17/unemployment-figures-should-be-millions-higher-says-research
Millions more people in Britain are without a job than shown by official unemployment figures, according to a study that suggests the jobless rate should be almost three times higher.
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:14 (six years ago)
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― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:17 (six years ago)
a piece of tory shit
I can't imagine why Ellman feels unwelcome.
― Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:17 (six years ago)
Crying for her
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:18 (six years ago)
When you don't even have the guts to admit you've been in the Labour Party your whole life but you hate socialism
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:19 (six years ago)
xxpwhy does she read ILX? you fule!
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:20 (six years ago)
Protests are supposed to be a nuisance to people, that's how they work, but this is exactly the wrong target. Also, anyone getting the DLR or the Jubilee Line from deep East London at 7am or before is going to be either very busy and stressed, poor/in precarious employment and stressed, or both. I guess they chose Stratford for a reason but Canning Town of all places is an abysmal choice of target.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:21 (six years ago)
I suspect the idea for some XR activists is that everything is a target for disruption because CC affects everything.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:24 (six years ago)
would never excuse violence and I do overall sympathise with the cause, but all those XR posters around town saying "Summer rebellion - take two weeks off work!" maybe lends us some clue as to the fact that some of the XR team may not understand the lives of normal people who have to go to work every day in stressful and uncomfortable circumstances and aren't privileged enough to be able to take 2 weeks off whenever they want to stop people getting to work. maybe they don't realise some people on those tubes will have their pay docked, or will get a ton of shit for being late
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:29 (six years ago)
otm
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:31 (six years ago)
for the zero hour precariat there is often a very thin line between struggling to get by and going under, just arriving half an hour late to work can have disastrous knock on effects for some people.
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:35 (six years ago)
Are they really that stupid though?
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:35 (six years ago)
(xp)
I don't necessarily agree with the tactic or argument but some are clearly going to argue 'fuck your job that you hate anyway none of this shit matters, millions will die because of CC'. I don't know what would persuade a minority to tailor their disruptive choices in light of that.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:37 (six years ago)
By the way, remember Brexit? Boris has just Got It Done.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:40 (six years ago)
Phew so glad to move onto other priorities now.
― stet, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:40 (six years ago)
RIPDUP?
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:41 (six years ago)
No, they're on board with it.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:41 (six years ago)
Holy shit here we go
They vote it down = election timeCowards and wankers combine to get it thru = jump on Barmston drain time
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:42 (six years ago)
Dup have just up middle fingered the deal
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:43 (six years ago)
Hold up. DUP say their statement from this morning (that "gaps remain") still stands!— Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor) October 17, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:45 (six years ago)
Any evidence of this in her voting record? Honest question. She doesn't like Corbyn for sure, but I don't think that's the same thing. Getting rid of MPs out who have increased turnout and have huge majorities (even if we are talking about Liverpool)doesn't seem like an election winning tactic to me. Calling them pieces of shit seems, erm, unnecessary.
― Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:46 (six years ago)
Basically, switch your phones off for a couple of hours xp
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:46 (six years ago)
It's not getting through Parliament without the DUP and I don't think there are enough Labour MPs willing to risk losing the whip for something that's obviously DOA.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:46 (six years ago)
Great news for Ellman's constituents at the new hard border.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:47 (six years ago)
thrilled to be alive three years after the referendum in a country hurtling towards a vitally important deadline and we still haven't got a fucking clue what's going on
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:47 (six years ago)
Sub-normals? That's nice.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:48 (six years ago)
Junckers and Johnson have both announced it as a done deal - but it seems they did so without telling Sammy Wilson first.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:49 (six years ago)
This is a good point but yeah only a bunch Kinnocks can get this deal through:
Counterintuitive though it may seem, Johnson pissing away his majority through expulsions means the DUP have less leverage over Brexit than they did. Johnson needs to find votes from across the house.— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) October 17, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:51 (six years ago)
ah, different telegraph. *nevertheless*and xyz otm about switching phone off for a couple of hours. (should have done it for three years.) still hard to see how this doesn’t breach DUP and crucially DUP supporters’ red lines, and without them hard to see where the numbers come from.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:53 (six years ago)
Seems like the deal is not really meant to be passed but is to be a election campaign plank less toxic than “vote for us for no deal”
― stet, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:53 (six years ago)
I expect all the purged Tories who haven't joined other parties to vote for it, that'll bump the numbers up.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:54 (six years ago)
"Calling them pieces of shit seems, erm, unnecessary."
so you are saying people can't express contempt for duplicitous right wing Labour politicians that use Guido Fawkes to slur anyone on the left, and yes her voting record is wretched. And I don't really care what you think after reading your indecipherable nonsense on YouGov yesterday.
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:55 (six years ago)
Yeah they'll vote it and swiftly be allowed back in. Meanwhile Labour lose a few more like Ellman.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:58 (six years ago)
gotta purge 'em all
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:01 (six years ago)
This is a summary of her voting record
Louise Ellman thought being a Labour MP meant voting for at least two bloody, pointless wars, voting to create privately run prisons for migrants, voting for economically illiterate PFI schemes, voting for Atos to supervise the disabled . She may have poor judgement.— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) October 16, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:04 (six years ago)
she seems nice
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:04 (six years ago)
cracking lass if you are a billionaire who owns one of the PFI behemoths, not so good if you are disabled or poor.
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:06 (six years ago)
Suggestion is the EU will help Boris out by saying it's this deal or no deal. Helping out their fellow right wing arsehole there.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:07 (six years ago)
look lads as Nelson Muntz once pointed out you've gotta nuke something
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:08 (six years ago)
except parliament has legislated to oblige BJ to avoid no deal so the EU can fuck off, unless they’re saying they won’t extend
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:10 (six years ago)
Didn't they say that about the May deal as well?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:11 (six years ago)
Probably!
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:12 (six years ago)
Consistently
Kinda painful to admit that the clown Johnson was in some small way right
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:16 (six years ago)
Lol BBC News using their best wicked witch picture of Arlene
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:17 (six years ago)
I note with a sad roll of my eyes that Hard Left Brexiteer Trot Crumbum has described this new deal as "shit"
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:18 (six years ago)
How many hours/wads of cash before the DUP caves?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:19 (six years ago)
Ooh Jo Swindon just described the deal as "fucking shit"
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:24 (six years ago)
Is it established this is May's deal only worse for UK or at least NI? It gets Johnson hailed as statecraft legend by the media sewer for a while regardless.
― nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:28 (six years ago)
surely there's no way he'll agree to Referendum 2: Gammon Boogaloo just to get the deal thru?
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:31 (six years ago)