PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

xp Challops Boulevard iirc

The XR action was rubbish but...assaulting people to get to work?!

Its a form of road rage, no? Pent up frustration, claustrophobia, stress

Try getting the 91 bus in the morning, you have to manhandle people to get on the fucking thing.

EXTINCTION REBELLION ACTIVISTS COP AN OLD-SCHOOL LONDON STOMPING
Get into them, lads! The spirit of “Sod off, swampy” rides again as enraged London commuters go to war with Extinction Rebellion sub-normals:

The Telegraph's take!

Sub-normals? That's nice.

Its weird to me to put it in terms of "wanting to get to work" as though people are rational animals making logical decisions, and not rammed into small spaces, already on edge for purely physical and immediate reasons, and then acting as a crowd. Its a surprise panic doesn't break out more often, then giving a crowd a focal point? "Its that guy up there".

xp
i was very much reading it in a plummy pathe news accent

crowd/mob psychology is dark scary shit

Oh, I thought that was a genuine Telegraph headline! They've gone completely barking in the last few months.

it is a c+p from the Telegraph!

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fblogs%2Ftim-blair%2Fextinction-rebellion-activists-cop-an-oldschool-london-stomping%2Fnews-story%2F6e39071a43571cce11636bfc2da362e3&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21suffix=56-a

It's the Australian Telegraph, but that doesn't make it any less weird

I know most XR people were against it, and anything decentralized runs this kind of risk but for those two to not realize something like this would happen is unfathomable (unless they intended it, but thats also weird)

xp
lol, reading it in a Shane Warne voice now.

Oh right, it's positively urbane by Australian standards.

I'm torn on the XR thing. Feels like an acid test as to where sympathies go. None for the cnuts who got violent with them though. Maybe it's a little taste of what's to come if Brexit/Tories finally push us to HK-style disruption.

Would the people who attacked them even have registered, at the time, that they were anything to do with XR? (not that it justifies anything

Back our brave commuters

they were holding up a big XR banner, so probably no confusion there.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/17/unemployment-figures-should-be-millions-higher-says-research

Millions more people in Britain are without a job than shown by official unemployment figures, according to a study that suggests the jobless rate should be almost three times higher.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbootstheory.files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F08%2Fjuking-the-stats.gif%3Fw%3D525&f=1&nofb=1

a piece of tory shit

I can't imagine why Ellman feels unwelcome.

Crying for her

When you don't even have the guts to admit you've been in the Labour Party your whole life but you hate socialism

xxp
why does she read ILX? you fule!

Protests are supposed to be a nuisance to people, that's how they work, but this is exactly the wrong target. Also, anyone getting the DLR or the Jubilee Line from deep East London at 7am or before is going to be either very busy and stressed, poor/in precarious employment and stressed, or both. I guess they chose Stratford for a reason but Canning Town of all places is an abysmal choice of target.

I suspect the idea for some XR activists is that everything is a target for disruption because CC affects everything.

would never excuse violence and I do overall sympathise with the cause, but all those XR posters around town saying "Summer rebellion - take two weeks off work!" maybe lends us some clue as to the fact that some of the XR team may not understand the lives of normal people who have to go to work every day in stressful and uncomfortable circumstances and aren't privileged enough to be able to take 2 weeks off whenever they want to stop people getting to work. maybe they don't realise some people on those tubes will have their pay docked, or will get a ton of shit for being late

otm

for the zero hour precariat there is often a very thin line between struggling to get by and going under, just arriving half an hour late to work can have disastrous knock on effects for some people.

Are they really that stupid though?

(xp)

I don't necessarily agree with the tactic or argument but some are clearly going to argue 'fuck your job that you hate anyway none of this shit matters, millions will die because of CC'. I don't know what would persuade a minority to tailor their disruptive choices in light of that.

By the way, remember Brexit? Boris has just Got It Done.

Phew so glad to move onto other priorities now.

RIPDUP?

No, they're on board with it.

Holy shit here we go

They vote it down = election time
Cowards and wankers combine to get it thru = jump on Barmston drain time

Dup have just up middle fingered the deal

Hold up. DUP say their statement from this morning (that "gaps remain") still stands!

— Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor) October 17, 2019

When you don't even have the guts to admit you've been in the Labour Party your whole life but you hate socialism

Any evidence of this in her voting record? Honest question. She doesn't like Corbyn for sure, but I don't think that's the same thing. Getting rid of MPs out who have increased turnout and have huge majorities (even if we are talking about Liverpool)doesn't seem like an election winning tactic to me. Calling them pieces of shit seems, erm, unnecessary.

Basically, switch your phones off for a couple of hours xp

It's not getting through Parliament without the DUP and I don't think there are enough Labour MPs willing to risk losing the whip for something that's obviously DOA.

Great news for Ellman's constituents at the new hard border.

thrilled to be alive three years after the referendum in a country hurtling towards a vitally important deadline and we still haven't got a fucking clue what's going on

Sub-normals? That's nice.

Junckers and Johnson have both announced it as a done deal - but it seems they did so without telling Sammy Wilson first.

This is a good point but yeah only a bunch Kinnocks can get this deal through:

Counterintuitive though it may seem, Johnson pissing away his majority through expulsions means the DUP have less leverage over Brexit than they did. Johnson needs to find votes from across the house.

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) October 17, 2019

ah, different telegraph. *nevertheless*

and xyz otm about switching phone off for a couple of hours. (should have done it for three years.)

still hard to see how this doesn’t breach DUP and crucially DUP supporters’ red lines, and without them hard to see where the numbers come from.