US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

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We are becoming isolationist and that’s dangerous for the sake of peace

he's still got it

blows with the wind donors (crüt), Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:19 (six years ago)

i think as a statement that is right

Dan S, Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:22 (six years ago)

There’s a wide range of options between interventionist and isolationist

El Tomboto, Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:24 (six years ago)

Bush invaded another country using a pretext so thin that even had it been true, instead of being a passel of pure lies, it still would have been illegitimate under international laws the USA supposedly subscribes to under the UN treaty. I think that puts him pretty solidly into the more extreme part of the interventionist camp.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:59 (six years ago)

Yes. The “not totally wrong” part of his statement is that a truly isolationist USA would be really terrible for the world order in other ways. The US has to have a more substantial and sophisticated foreign policy than “don’t wanna”

El Tomboto, Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:10 (six years ago)

I thought our foreign policy was “fuck you, pay me”.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:11 (six years ago)

lolll I am just now catching the end of that Erdogan letter

"I will call you later."

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:13 (six years ago)

u okay w chinese tonight hmb

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:14 (six years ago)

I thought our foreign policy was “fuck you, pay me”.

pretty sure this is Trump’s everything policy

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:15 (six years ago)

"YOU WILL FOREVER BE KNOWN AS THE DEVIL. Chat later."

jmm, Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:16 (six years ago)

Don’t they have emails? The fuck is with letters? Erdogan is going to receive a copy of this in 2 days?

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:20 (six years ago)

End of that letter was some real Tommy Wiseau shit.

Have not read deeply into this, but that had to be leaked by Trump, right? Like it’s exactly the sorta thing he thinks would make him look tough and “on top of it”.

circa1916, Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:23 (six years ago)

Don’t they have emails? The fuck is with letters? Erdogan is going to receive a copy of this in 2 days?


Don’t get me started on the diplomatic demarche process. “Leaking” that to a Fox News personality was probably one of the fastest ways to make sure Erdogan saw it

El Tomboto, Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:27 (six years ago)

but that had to be leaked by Trump, right? Like it’s exactly the sorta thing he thinks would make him look tough and “on top of it”

No leak, he's so proud of his work he handed out copies at the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer today.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:37 (six years ago)

Ok, somehow more pathetically obvious than I even thought.

circa1916, Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:45 (six years ago)

I'm also proud of the first letter I ever wrote

Vinnie, Thursday, 17 October 2019 03:04 (six years ago)

Latest polls asking if Trump should be impeached *and* removed from office, w/ change in net points pre-inquiry:
Fox News: 51-40 (+14)
Qunnipiac: 45-49 (+16)
Morning Consult: 50-43 (+20)
CNN: 47-45 (+15)
HarrisX: 50-38 (+16)
WaPo: 49-38 (+33)
Gallup 52-46 (+15)

Brutal for Trump.

— Josh Jordan (@NumbersMuncher) October 16, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 October 2019 03:05 (six years ago)

(note those changes are net, the actual increase in fraction supporting impeachment is about half that)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 October 2019 03:07 (six years ago)

“Now, the P.K.K., which is a part of the Kurds, as you know, is probably worse at terror and more of a terrorist threat in many ways than ISIS.”

i didn't catch this one today. wtf.

treeship., Thursday, 17 October 2019 03:09 (six years ago)

worse at terror, and more of a terrorist threat

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 October 2019 03:38 (six years ago)

want to apologize to future generations for this moment in history now and just beat the rush

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 17 October 2019 04:23 (six years ago)

Elijah Cummings RIP

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:28 (six years ago)

Whoa. And 68—I would have guessed way older.

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:43 (six years ago)

i trust trump's response to this will be in keeping with the rest of his statements about cummings

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:58 (six years ago)

If this dummy could manage to be earnestly respectful, generous for even ten seconds—"we disagreed but he was a good man"—it would completely paralyze the media for the day and probably get his numbers up a tick or two.

He won't, he can't

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:11 (six years ago)

RIP Elijah Cummings.

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:16 (six years ago)

actually this is somehow worse than an outright final insult towards cummings, what a shitheel

My warmest condolences to the family and many friends of Congressman Elijah Cummings. I got to see first hand the strength, passion and wisdom of this highly respected political leader. His work and voice on so many fronts will be very hard, if not impossible, to replace!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 17, 2019

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:21 (six years ago)

nah, that's literally about the best he could do (assuming someone else wrote it). i would like to see him leave it at that and never say anything about cummings ever again.

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:23 (six years ago)

i would very much like to see his death not be subsumed into whatever trump thinks about it

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:23 (six years ago)

otm

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:24 (six years ago)

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:28 (six years ago)

A Fraud Guarantee investor is wondering what happened to their money. “I’m afraid myself,” the person said. “I invested money. I never got anything back. And now I’m sitting cold. It’s a bit scary. That’s it.” https://t.co/l33GXl2RlB @politico

— Darren Samuelsohn (@dsamuelsohn) October 17, 2019

who can you trust if not Fraud Guarantee

frogbs, Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:32 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz1Jwyxd4tE

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:34 (six years ago)

https://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/the-day-the-violence-died15.png?w=584

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:35 (six years ago)

is the next courageous chair of the house oversight and reform committee...Carolyn Maloney? not sure how succession work in these committees.

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:37 (six years ago)

Sondland, adopting the strategy that helped Don Jr avoid an indictment: he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law. https://t.co/qYQApGlTDW

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) October 17, 2019

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:40 (six years ago)

whos in the mood for more financial crimes

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/the-mystery-of-the-trump-chaos-trades


There is no way for another trader, let alone an outsider such as me, to know who is making these trades. But regulators know or can find out. One longtime CME trader who has been watching with disgust says he’s never seen anything quite like these trades, not at least since al-Qaida cashed in before initiating the September 11 attacks. “There is definite hanky-panky going on, to the world’s financial markets’ detriment,” he says. “This is abysmal.”

In the case of Trump, market manipulation also yields political dividends. Perhaps the most obvious example dates to late August, when Trump, desperate to reignite trade talks with China, boasted during the G7 summit that his counterparts in Beijing had come back to the table. “We’ve gotten two calls—very, very good calls,” he told reporters. “They mean business.” The market rose more than 900 points over the next few days. But a spokesperson for the Chinese foreign ministry said he was not aware of any such calls. An editor at the Global Times, the state-controlled newspaper, tweeted that he knew of no calls made in the days leading up to the G7 meeting and that “China won’t cave to US pressure.” Two U.S government officials later told CNN that Trump misspoke and “conflated” comments from China’s Vice Premier Liu He with direct communication from the Chinese. According to CNN, the officials said Trump was “eager to project optimism that might boost markets.”

Indeed, this single Trump lie briefly inflated domestic markets by hundreds of billions of dollars. “What this describes is, quite literally, market manipulation that constitutes criminal violations of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934,” commented George Conway, the conservative attorney and Trump critic.

frogbs, Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:41 (six years ago)

i don't trust anyone who would marry kellyanne conway, but everything else about that has the ring of truth. the broader market has been hopping up/down 1.5% based off of rumors about china trade talks for over a year now, it's insane

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:47 (six years ago)

He also posted a very leading tweet before a jobs report was made public last year.

Yerac, Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:50 (six years ago)

Picture some young GOP intern-weasel composing this while Trump froths and thrashes in the background https://t.co/nbUkj7yTul

— Roy Edroso (@edroso) October 17, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:52 (six years ago)

Warmest condolences still sounds odd to me

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:54 (six years ago)

he had been sitting on them for years

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:55 (six years ago)

I'm gonna go ahead and predict that we don't get through an entire 24 hours before he says/does something to undermine that completely rote expression of decency. Perhaps by retweeting something racist about Cummings? Who can say.

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:57 (six years ago)


There is no way for another trader, let alone an outsider such as me, to know who is making these trades. But regulators know or can find out. One longtime CME trader who has been watching with disgust says he’s never seen anything quite like these trades, not at least since al-Qaida cashed in before initiating the September 11 attacks. “There is definite hanky-panky going on, to the world’s financial markets’ detriment,” he says. “This is abysmal.”
In the case of Trump, market manipulation also yields political dividends. Perhaps the most obvious example dates to late August, when Trump, desperate to reignite trade talks with China, boasted during the G7 summit that his counterparts in Beijing had come back to the table. “We’ve gotten two calls—very, very good calls,” he told reporters. “They mean business.” The market rose more than 900 points over the next few days. But a spokesperson for the Chinese foreign ministry said he was not aware of any such calls. An editor at the Global Times, the state-controlled newspaper, tweeted that he knew of no calls made in the days leading up to the G7 meeting and that “China won’t cave to US pressure.” Two U.S government officials later told CNN that Trump misspoke and “conflated” comments from China’s Vice Premier Liu He with direct communication from the Chinese. According to CNN, the officials said Trump was “eager to project optimism that might boost markets.”

Indeed, this single Trump lie briefly inflated domestic markets by hundreds of billions of dollars. “What this describes is, quite literally, market manipulation that constitutes criminal violations of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934,” commented George Conway, the conservative attorney and Trump critic.

I am pretty ignorant on stock market stuff but i saw this transparent shit and had to believe i wasnt the only one

I swear every time the stock market takes a hit there is "news" of optimism regarding a trade deal with China so it goes back up. seems odd but idk anything about this shit

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:38 PM (three weeks ago)

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:58 (six years ago)

dude, seriously. The "eCoNOmy & mY 401k" is his supporters main crutch for the last 2 years.

Yerac, Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:04 (six years ago)

there were definitely a lot of rumors in 2017 that someone was making tons of cash by knowing in advance when he was gonna tweet something that would affect the markets but I forgot about it amongst all the other corruption

frogbs, Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:07 (six years ago)

some young GOP intern-weasel

Flagged for this egregious and uncalled-for insult to weaselkind.

Sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:10 (six years ago)

sea otters are weasels you clod

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:11 (six years ago)

All the mustelidae are sleek and fleet (indeed, on fleek).

Sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:12 (six years ago)

They are a noble lineage

Sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:12 (six years ago)


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