PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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_Then why do they call it the Belfast Agreement?_


Is Fintan O'Toole's use of the term loaded? Genuinely curious:

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-the-belfast-agreement-is-flawed-but-not-in-the-way-brexiteers-think-1.3400311🕸


The Irish Times is...well...

gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 13:58 (six years ago)

my earliest Good Friday memory is hearing my dad saying "well we've cooked the meat now" but he pronounced it coooked, but of course it's a strong catholic thing, unless I'm misunderstanding the argument here!

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 14:10 (six years ago)

I'm no expert but it seems as though Good Friday is indeed more significant to Catholics than it is to Anglicans overall, but it's a bank holiday only on Anglican territory (so to speak), which strikes me as odd.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 14:13 (six years ago)

I hope you are not referring to Protestants in Scotland and NI as belonging to Anglican territory.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

I think there's been a few wars over that.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

The kirk is v serious business

gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

Anything that isn't Eastern Orthodoxy is a schismatic heresy anyway so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 14:40 (six years ago)

RIP Adonis

EXC: full Labour longlist for Vauxhall: Ibrahim Dogus, Katy Clark, Lucy Caldicott (Lambeth councillor), Maurice Macleod (Wandswoth councillor), Florence Eshalomi, Stephen Beer (former CLP chair) Claire Holland (deputy leader of Lambeth Council)

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) October 16, 2019

gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 16:05 (six years ago)

Government scraps online 'porn block' plans after law hits kinks https://t.co/R17unx623h

— Sky News (@SkyNews) October 16, 2019

lol no shit, this was never going to happen

gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 17:13 (six years ago)

b-b-but what about the will of the people

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 17:16 (six years ago)

law hits kinks

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 17:20 (six years ago)

joke’s on them, the kinks are into
being hit

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 17:20 (six years ago)

ray davies consulting his lawyers

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 17:22 (six years ago)

International Trade Secretary Liz Truss has claimed that MPs will not get to vote on post-Brexit trade deals, despite their potential impact on the future of the country.

Speaking to the International Trade Committee this morning, Truss was asked by Labour MP Owen Smith whether she will provide Parliament with a yes/no vote on future trade agreements.

However, Truss flatly rejected this idea, saying that international treaties are an “executive prerogative” (i.e. they are negotiated and approved by the government alone).

This would essentially mean that the Prime Minister and a small group of Cabinet ministers would be free to fundamentally restructure Britain’s economy, without asking for Parliament’s consent.

that's alright, who could possibly harbour any worries about Truss and some of her deranged Britannia Unchained buddies having executive prerogative over the future of the UK's economy, the very meaning of safe hands!

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:01 (six years ago)

"The real reason Parliament was prorogued for a second time was to scrap the Trade Bill with amendments which would have given Parliament a say over future trade deals."

I'm the quoting proverbial comments section that you should never read here, but this sounds about right.

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:53 (six years ago)

couple of recent political things worth catching on iplayer: timex documentary & loki series on scotland has some interesting stuff too on impacts of austerity etc

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:33 (six years ago)

JC you’re killing me

Always happy to meet and discuss our plans to end rip-off privatisation.

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) October 16, 2019

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:34 (six years ago)

I feel like I keep asking this but how under the Westminster system can anyone argue with a straight face that anything is an executive prerogative? Shouldn't it be axiomatic that the executive is delegated powers from Parliament and that it can withhold those powers whenever it likes?

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:34 (six years ago)

The executive is delegated power by the queen.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:36 (six years ago)

oh lol I forgot about that part, I guess I meant under the assumption that the queen is a legal fiction

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:36 (six years ago)

I mean she’s been dead years tbh

gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:39 (six years ago)

The right to sign treaties has never sat with Parliament since the restoration of the monarchy aiui, it has always been with the monarch or their delegated representative. There is no principle that says the legislature should have a say. The legislature can change the law to bring more stuff within its scope (including the power to go to war, recently) though.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:45 (six years ago)

I don’t * have* an ‘ID’ . Nor do I intend to have one. A licence says you are qualified to drive. It is not an identity document. Millions have neither a driving licence or passport. Please go away now. Your complacent gullibility is annoying. https://t.co/GY7I0mfF5o

— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) October 16, 2019

P Hitchens otm!

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:00 (six years ago)

Oh get a room you two.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:09 (six years ago)

I'm just a closet small c conservative reactionary cunt, don't tell anyone!

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:13 (six years ago)

lmao how did I miss this at the time (JC was talking about it in his interview w/ash sarkar today)

Jeremy Corbyn killed my sister's baby rabbit! Only in @thesundaysport tomorrow pic.twitter.com/quvbG78mpz

— Sunday Sport (@thesundaysport) May 13, 2017

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:48 (six years ago)

Louise Ellman quits Labour.

I have made the truly agonising decision to leave the Labour Party after 55 years. I can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM. I will continue to serve the people of Liverpool Riverside as I have had the honour to do since 1997. pic.twitter.com/3BTzUacZvo

— Louise Ellman MP (@LouiseEllman) October 16, 2019

coup de twat (suzy), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:02 (six years ago)

Her CLP voted to trigger reselection a few weeks ago and she’s making it an antisemitism issue. Is it? I don’t know much about her CLP.

coup de twat (suzy), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:05 (six years ago)

Not sure, but she’s been a long term critic of Corbyn even pre leadership and I think the CLP held the trigger ballot on Yom Kippur, which is just fucking horrendous

gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:27 (six years ago)

That's bad. As was her voting record.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:38 (six years ago)

it's always agonising for a piece of tory shit to realise they've spent half a decade in a party that isn't recognisably "the labour family" any more. long may it continue.

calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:42 (six years ago)

I don't really understand the two XR people disrupting public transport this morning. Am I missing something here?

anvil, Thursday, 17 October 2019 07:25 (six years ago)

about climate change I think

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 17 October 2019 07:41 (six years ago)

I doubt it, nobody seems to understand what they thought they were up to.

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 October 2019 07:41 (six years ago)

about climate change I think

ah yes, so it is! Just googled

anvil, Thursday, 17 October 2019 07:47 (six years ago)

you don't expect right-wing outlets like Guido Fawkes to corroborate the slurs contained in "anonymous" dossiers leaked by Ellman, but it appears also the Graun and the BBC were just as happy to take hers (+ Councillor Nick Small's) very untrustworthy words as sincere. Good riddance.. shut door on't way out etc..

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 07:58 (six years ago)

passengers piling into XR wth

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:00 (six years ago)

nagl disrupting public transport lads

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:02 (six years ago)

There'll be dancing on the streets of whatever street Spiked is on tonite

anvil, Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:04 (six years ago)

I fucking hate cars, but I thought public transport was good.

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:10 (six years ago)

xp Challops Boulevard iirc

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:11 (six years ago)

The XR action was rubbish but...assaulting people to get to work?!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:25 (six years ago)

Its a form of road rage, no? Pent up frustration, claustrophobia, stress

anvil, Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:29 (six years ago)

Try getting the 91 bus in the morning, you have to manhandle people to get on the fucking thing.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:37 (six years ago)

EXTINCTION REBELLION ACTIVISTS COP AN OLD-SCHOOL LONDON STOMPING
Get into them, lads! The spirit of “Sod off, swampy” rides again as enraged London commuters go to war with Extinction Rebellion sub-normals:

The Telegraph's take!

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:39 (six years ago)

Sub-normals? That's nice.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:45 (six years ago)

Its weird to me to put it in terms of "wanting to get to work" as though people are rational animals making logical decisions, and not rammed into small spaces, already on edge for purely physical and immediate reasons, and then acting as a crowd. Its a surprise panic doesn't break out more often, then giving a crowd a focal point? "Its that guy up there".

anvil, Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:46 (six years ago)

xp
i was very much reading it in a plummy pathe news accent

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:48 (six years ago)

crowd/mob psychology is dark scary shit

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:49 (six years ago)

Oh, I thought that was a genuine Telegraph headline! They've gone completely barking in the last few months.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:49 (six years ago)


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