2020 Democratic presidential primary

if her strategy is stressing overall costs down, and Bernie's is to say "yeah we're gonna raise taxes but you'll like it," seems reasonable for them to be doing different things

It isn’t like that, though - the questions were like “does your proposal raise taxes, yes no?” and her answers were like um, I don’t know but overall costs will go down so, just very evasive

I think i only know of Happy Death Day because of Brad mentioning it. I was super excited on a recent flight that they had Happy Death Day on the tv but then I realized it was the sequel! It was ok.

Oh maybe that's how I know about it! Definitely heard about it on ILX. And if you were flying Delta they have both, that's where I watched them. Also, yes, Buttigieg, who I like a lot in general, was being a prick tonight, buying into a "but taxes" narrative on health care that he's too smart to fall for. (By which I mean -- he's not beating up Warren with that because he believes it, he's beating up Warren with that because he cynically and perhaps correctly thinks it helps him at her expense.)

drinking some scotch and starting to drift, not sure I can stick with this much longer

she doesn't need to say "fuck yeah, I'll raise your taxes!" but she needs a more direct answer

it's the you're old and/or dying portion of the debate

xpost not delta, the oneworld airlines.

I hate how taxes are such a bogeyman.

america

did warren just say "shit"

she's finally going after the field and making a case for herself

I do think that any public company or any private company over a certain value should be required to have a funeral plan that if they majorly fuck up, like Purdue, they have to unwind and distribute all assets esp since we want to treat corporations like people.

did warren just say "shit"

I just lolled very hard imagining Warren going full Clay Davis

haha, I totally had the same thought

Warren definitely said "By Golly" earlier in the debate

this argument about the Twitter account is so stupid

Could Biden possibly answer a question without the phrase "here's the deal"?

lookit

"look." favored by both bernie & obama iirc

I've a friend who by October 2008 had mastered that Obama debate technique of holding a hand out to interrupt the moderator: Waitwaitwaitwait. *emphatic voice* Look.

fortunately my stream froze just as julian castro was about to talk about ellen degeneres and george bush

🚨SCOOP with @WaPoSean: @AOC will endorse @BernieSanders for president.🚨 https://t.co/H1I9woghzG

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) October 16, 2019

oh dang who had McCain on the bingo sheet aka Klobuchar CANCELLED

A coup

Klobuchar babbling about McCain dying and anointing her High Queen of Narnia.

AOC endorsement seems more significant to me than whatever these freaks could possibly say in a debate

I expected it tbh

oh daaamn AOC endorses Bernie hell of a scoop that’ll shake things up

the real winner tonight: Chevrolet

audio is out of sync now and it’s freaking me out

wow i can't believe joe biden was friends with john mccain this is very surprising

...aaaaand, it's a wrap. the closing statements all had fine uplifting clichés. I like uplifting clichés. They're touching. Every one of Obama's SOTU addresses had a good assortment of them and I liked them then just as much. But we're good and fucked if the Republicans win a bare Senate majority and McConnell stays in power.

man the Squad is about to catch unmitigated hell from the resistance Dems who’ve claimed them as their sassy mascots

Do those people exist?

is it correct buttigieg win this joint with his raw courages political and personal?

The fiction is that pundits can determine who won or lost tonight and announce this fact immediately. The truth is that it is far too early to understand where any of this is going, other than that the three front runners will still be running after South Carolina, but at most two of the also-rans will still be limping along until Super Tuesday, after which all but two or three of them will be permanently immobilized.

I’m hearing booker moved the needle but it’s a terrible forum

Do those people exist?

I have definitely seen that kind of rhetoric too. There really are people who love Ocasio-Cortez but despise Sanders. I don't get it at all, but they're out there. I bet they'll get pissed off about this.

these are ppl without consistent ideology

Twitter is a cesspit

we're good and fucked if the Republicans win a bare Senate majority and McConnell stays in power.

this will almost certainly happen

man the Squad is about to catch unmitigated hell from the resistance Dems who’ve claimed them as their sassy mascots

doubt this will happen; if sanders is nominee all those Dems will get behind him, if not (which is more likely) AOC and Bernie will both be behind the nominee and this will be forgotten.

these are ppl without consistent ideology

aka most voters, most non-voters, most people you know, most people on this board

if sanders is nominee all those Dems will get behind him

[citation needed]

Re: "do these people exist", unfortunately, yes.

I like AOC and the squad, but prefer Warren over Sanders. I'm totally fine with the endorsements.

[citation needed]

Party iD just keeps on becoming a stronger and more stable vote predictor and Democrats are by and large gonna Democrat. I know a lot of Democrats and I can think of a grand total of one who I think truly might not pull the lever for Sanders if he were the nominee. Democrats who are leftists like what Sanders says he'll do. Democrats who aren't leftists like some, but not all of it, but think the most leftist parts won't get enacted and that the espousal of the most leftist parts from the Oval Office pulls the whole conversation to the left and makes liberal policy read as centrist -- which, as far as I'm concerned, it actually is. It seems like a win for everybody -- well, everybody who's a Democrat.

when democrats win, america wins

Yes, Bernie and Warren are only offering moderate centrist policies.

I like AOC and the squad, but prefer Warren over Sanders.

Democrats who are leftists like what Sanders says he'll do...but think the most leftist parts won't get enacted

This combination is me. Plus I find Sanders' personality grating. If he's the nominee, I'll vote for him. But I'm pretty confident he won't be.

these are ppl without consistent ideology

"vote for women"

lmao oh god

She’s having a “Dinner and Conversation” Wednesday night at 50K a head, the day after the debate, and 3 weeks before the deadline to file for the ballot in Michigan and Alabama.

She’s running. pic.twitter.com/wbhvdDZZnm

— Ghost of Joe Hill 🌺 (@GhostofJoeHill) October 15, 2019

gonna pretend I didn't just read that