US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

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This is the key sentence negating all but the most severe claims of executive privilege:

"The deliberative process privilege disappears altogether when there is any reason to believe government misconduct occurred.”

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 12:11 (six years ago)

The shortish version is that Ukrainian politics is dominated by half a dozen extremely rich oligarchs.

phew, good thing this model isn't replicated elsewhere

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 12:16 (six years ago)

(interesting piece tho, thx for posting sv)

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 12:16 (six years ago)

🚨Fiona Hill describes this scene:

In a White House meeting, Sondland tells Ukrainians they will get a Trump meeting if they open the investigations Trump wants. Then, Sondland follows the Ukrainians out of the meeting to privately make clear he's talking about Hunter Biden.

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) October 15, 2019

"just in case you're confused, we're doing crimes here"

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:58 (six years ago)

best part of this testimony is bolton calling the ukraine efforts, "whatever drug deal sondland and giuliani are cooking up in ukraine"

pretty funny. bolton should be invited to ilx.

treeship., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:04 (six years ago)

lol i'm still worried he's going to come out of this looking like a patriot

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:10 (six years ago)

i love how US Senators are now delivering the news with drudge sirens

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:11 (six years ago)

can we get a quick list of who would have to be lying/committing treason in order for trump to be telling the truth

it is thousands of people

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:14 (six years ago)

the deep state has a deep bench iirc

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:15 (six years ago)

don't worry, those maverickin' GOP moderates in the Senate have got Trump's back!

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/465779-trumps-gop-impeachment-firewall-holds-strong

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

it was assumed that trump fired bolton because they didn't agree on...anything other than that he was on fox news and was on the tv and that trump liked that, at one time.

have to wonder if bolton reporting giuliani to white house lawyers may have played a role

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:40 (six years ago)

Bolton would still kill us all if given half the chance, but he's a politician. He's survived this long in spite of being nuts. The rest are the Keystone Kops.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) October 15, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:52 (six years ago)

So enjoyable that Rudy got half a million dollars for "business and legal advice" from a guy who was subsequently arrested at an airport. Apparently your "legal advice" sucks, dude.

For the record, I would happily give terrible legal advice to anyone for WAY less than that.

Heck, I'd be willing to tell a criminal to flee the country for more like $200K. A bargain.

Sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:41 (six years ago)

RAND PAUL: If we're going to investigate Giuliani, then we should investigate Hunter Biden.@SRuhle: Does that mean we should investigate how Kushner's family got foreign money? Ivanka's Chinese trademarks?

RP: If we want to go down the road of self-destruction, we can do that. pic.twitter.com/4jqvRepoms

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 15, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:49 (six years ago)

party motto is now I Know You Are But What Am I

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:50 (six years ago)

Just today, I have seen Donald Trump's son, Ron Paul's son and Mitt Romney's niece speak out forcefully about how bad it is to use family connections to advance your career.

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) October 15, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:51 (six years ago)

that wd be George Romney's son's niece

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:53 (six years ago)

tbf, 22% of people under the age of 30 are related to the Romneys

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:57 (six years ago)

cf. that episode of new girl where max greenfield convincingly passed himself off as "tagg romney"

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:01 (six years ago)

xp was that via one of those conversion ceremonies

j., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:03 (six years ago)

correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't all this Hunter Biden stuff investigated years ago?

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:18 (six years ago)

Peter Navarro, Trump's trade adviser and chief cheerleader of his China policy, has apparently been quoting staunch China hawk "Ron Vara" in his books for years. But:

1. Ron Vara is an anagram of Navarro.
2. Ron Vara doesn't exist.@tebartl digs in: https://t.co/6GJb24pjmq

— Megan Cassella (@mmcassella) October 15, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:25 (six years ago)

the stand up comedy routine trump is doing at the "values summit" is--predictably--fucking insane

treeship., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:26 (six years ago)

ok lol

treeship., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:26 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG8G00pX0AAh-oI?format=jpg&name=large

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:27 (six years ago)

Aw.

Rudy Giuliani is parting ways with the personal attorney representing him so far in matters related to the impeachment inquiry. Giuliani confirmed to CNN Tuesday that his current attorney, Jon Sale, is ending his representation of the former New York City mayor shortly.

— Shimon Prokupecz (@ShimonPro) October 15, 2019

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:29 (six years ago)

correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't all this Hunter Biden stuff investigated years ago?

The Republicans ran six investigations into Benghazi. QED.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:34 (six years ago)

Who is doing the dumping

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:34 (six years ago)

May be mildly relevant that Rudy Giuliani is also in the middle of a nasty public divorce. (Again. Memorieees…)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/third-time-was-not-the-charm-rudy-giulianis-latest-divorce-is-bitter-expensive-and-very-public/2019/10/14/2e028b8a-ec3c-11e9-85c0-85a098e47b37_story.html

Sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:36 (six years ago)

he and trump live for that stuff though. get to be in the paper, get to feel victimized--life is good.

treeship., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

is THIS the giant dump that was prophesized on twitter in the late stages of the campaign, that someone or something has been holding onto for all this time, finally to be expelled?

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:04 (six years ago)

What dump? Trump poop himself again?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:07 (six years ago)

The legendary Rick Wilson dump

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:09 (six years ago)

I assume all the prophecied dump dumped out and did nothing.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:10 (six years ago)

the Rick Wilson thing was the Steele Dossier iirc

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:14 (six years ago)

Are we playing the oldies today?

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:18 (six years ago)

her strongest opponent just raised $3.2 million in the last quarter

Sen. Susan Collins’s (R-Maine) approval rating is deeply underwater about a year ahead of her reelection race, according to a new poll from the left-leaning firm Public Policy Polling.

Thirty-five percent of Maine voters approve of the job Collins is doing, while 50 percent disapprove. Collins trails a generic Democratic candidate 44 percent to 41 percent in the 2020 Maine Senate race, a drop from September when she led a generic Democrat 44 percent to 38.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:31 (six years ago)

Perhaps now the MSNBC crowd can stop inviting Claire McCaskill to moan about her Kavanaugh vote costing her the election when it's obvious Collins' vote is hurting her too.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:32 (six years ago)

i still need to figure out what to do with susancollins2020.com

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:38 (six years ago)

i still need to figure out what to do with susancollins2020.com

Go with a classic:

goatse.jpg

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:39 (six years ago)

Lost in that Giuliani lawyer ghosting him is that said lawyer informed Rudy that he needed an attorney with more criminal expertise!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:47 (six years ago)

the stand up comedy routine trump is doing at the "values summit" is--predictably--fucking insane

it's hard to be surprised in 2019, but that gives me the chills. he's full-on mad king. it's remarkable how he sounds like every paranoid tyrant ever

Françoise, Laurel, and Hardy (K. Rrosé), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:58 (six years ago)

it's also disturbing how everything he is saying is met with cheers, laughs and encouragement

treeship., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:20 (six years ago)

the "sir" tell is a definite

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:20 (six years ago)

stopping at any point in that value summit thing and listening to anything for four minutes betrays his degree of unhingedness
i got some sort of a monologue about beautiful soldiers carrying caskets with wailing sisters on top. it's utterly mad.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

Rudy openly defying the subpoena, I guess the whole "laws don't apply to Republicans" thing is really about to get tested

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:57 (six years ago)

Carried in by sergeant at arms

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 21:10 (six years ago)

the windows are being broken from inside the house

maura, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 21:11 (six years ago)

Others have noted there was actually a third guy indicted along with those Giuliani cronies, his current whereabouts unknown. Some folks theorizing that he is taking it easy in a nice hotel room right now courtesy the FBI.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 21:50 (six years ago)

Pelosi press conference imminent.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 22:38 (six years ago)


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