The exchanges between Elliot and his sister are so glacial it's like watching an episode of Jam, I wish they'd speed it up slightly, it's boring as fuck to watch. The whole second episode looks like Eyes Wide Shut though, I'm digging that.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 14 October 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
S4E2 lots of nothing and the uh "twist" goes back to the show's worst tendencies
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
honestly I watched about half of the s4 premiere and then bailed. in retrospect it really seems like Esmail and co. just had no clue what to do with the non-Elliot characters even as he kept adding more and more of them.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
I've seen speculation that Angela's fate was the product of some real-life interpersonal drama but honestly given how wasted other female characters have been who could even tell
― Simon H., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link
Now it feels like I'm watching Season 5 of Lost or something where they're *still* pissing around running from one side of the island to the next to do 'a thing', completely beholden to the conceit laid out in the first twenty minutes of the very first episode.
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
tobias: best new incidental character
― mh, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:34 (four years ago) link
I didn't spot the gimmick for this episode until the very end - well done, I guess? Apart from that almost nothing happened, just moving pieces around.
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
Is the gimmick that there was no dialogue?
― Yelploaf, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
Great episode; best of the season. And Young M.A.! What with Joey Badass I'm guessing Sam Esmail is a backpacker hip hop nerd.
― Yelploaf, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
This show is simultaneously amazing and garbage in a way nothing else is.
― 29 facepalms, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
xps - yep
also not an xp - yep
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
Enjoyed the last two, what was the gimmick though?
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link
Oh wait, no dialogue?
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link
yep
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link
Has it ever been clarified the purpose of the machine that White Rose is building/built?
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 7 November 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link
It's a dead-mom-bringing-back machine
― Dan I., Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
makes all your dead parents forever live in your head
Elliot's the first test subject
― mh, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
Man these last two weeks have sucked. The Vera character is so lame.
SPOILERS
And all of this crap is in service of a cheap child abuse revelation. I dunno, I know all the TV auteurs claim they are more interested in characters than plot, but when Esmail assembles such a (mostly) mediocre cast and give them cliched and not-very-interesting things to say, maybe it would have been better to focus on the plot. The hacker heist bits are definitely my favorite parts of the show.
― DJI, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
plot reveals character!
― j., Wednesday, 20 November 2019 04:26 (four years ago) link
At last! Also lolz at Trump in the Deus groop gathering.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 2 December 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link
fun episode
love 2 put all my infinite money in one bank and get all my friends to do the same thing
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 2 December 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link
Anybody still watching this thing? Penultimate episode dropped last night, two-hour finale next weekend. I feel like I've spent the entire season slowly recalling all of the things I'd forgotten about previous seasons. Not unconvinced it's all gonna be nonsense in the end, but we've gotten a few years of nicely-filmed sturm und drang out of the deal, and that ain't nothin'.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 December 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link
I am still watching! Haven't seen the latest episode though.
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 16 December 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
Still watching, what a time to hit the button though, right at the end of the whole thing, interested to see what the actual fuck is going to happen now.
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link
I'm withholding judgment and trying to just enjoy the ride (an approach that I find is the most constructive way to enjoy this show), but I'm hard-pressed to think of any explanation for the sudden shift in the status quo that won't be disappointing. Every show and movie in existence is banking on high concept at the moment, so if you're going that route you really gotta wow the audience with something unexpected.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
I still haven't started the last season and I have a feeling I might just bail on it.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
At this point in this kind of show all I really want is for them to not completely mess up the ending. This episode was fine! I'm making myself not waste time on speculation - the plot will go wherever Esmail wants it to - and yeah, just enjoy the ride.
(though I'm pretty sure it's the same Tyrell that got lost in the words; and why no Darlene? Mrs. Alderson had an affair, and that didn't happen in the new timeline?)
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
lost in the *woods*
white rose looking good in the end times
― mh, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link
however it ends, the journey was worth it imo - especially this last season! writing, cinematography and performances have all been ON POINT. The malek/wong staredown in the latest episode was a particular high point.
― Legacy of Banality (Pillbox), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link
I didn't expect the Elliot Instrumentality Project, but I'm tentatively on board. I always liked Eva's ending.
― OneSecondBefore, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link
I think they stuck the landing
― mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link
I stopped watching but I guess they went full St Elsewhere with it?
― Simon H., Monday, 23 December 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
I am thinking of just watching the finale and not the rest of the final season.
― Yerac, Monday, 23 December 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
same tbh
― Simon H., Monday, 23 December 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
I’d throw in the preceding episode as well
― mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link
Fuck this candy-ass Dallas bullshit and fuck M83
― Maresn3st, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link
At least he didn't move to Canada and become a lumberjack.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link
so yeah huh
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link
I wasn't expecting the finale to be an extended riff on Inside Out
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link
Agree, stuck the landing, for me. Wasn't expecting the reveal and loved how the reintegration was shown.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link
Just finished the finale, literally came here to type the phrase 'stuck the landing'. Glad to see I'm not alone! Esmail adroitly sailed between the cyberpunk Scylla and the multiversal Charybdis he'd set the audience up to expect. It ended in a much more satisfying and internally-consistent fashion than some of the shows I've deeply loved (I think I've settled on a designation of 'pretty darn good' for this particular show).
― Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 03:06 (four years ago) link
Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:
ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31
If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link
Four-and-a-half years since I gave up on this--almost back where I bailed, S2/E5. I will definitely finish this time. Having subtitles off Prime helps (was watching bootlegs last time).
― clemenza, Monday, 4 January 2021 00:42 (three years ago) link
That's about where i quit too. i'm okay letting it pass.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 00:46 (three years ago) link
You guys bailed because of this??https://townsquare.media/site/442/files/2016/08/mr-robot-alf-pic.jpg
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link
lol, i did not know that happened; it might've kept me in!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:07 (three years ago) link
Haven't gotten that far...I indicated above that confusion was my main reason the first time--took too long a break between S1 and S2--but I'm reminded now of what may have been the bigger reason: keeping Christian Slater's character around way too long. I find him quite tiresome a few episodes into S2. I'm determined to finish anyway. Don't tell me, but I'm hoping he's gone after this season.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link
I'm curious what y'all think happens just based on this image...
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link
Slater does go away, and Alf steps into the breach as Elliot's new ever-present id?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link