US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

xxp ELECTION INTERFERENCE!

He was just trying to learn about possible caravans, give him a break

President Trump’s acquiescence to Turkey’s move to send troops deep inside Syrian territory has in only one week’s time turned into a bloody carnage, forced the abandonment of a successful five-year-long American project to keep the peace on a volatile border, and given an unanticipated victory to four American adversaries: Russia, Iran, the Syrian government and the Islamic State.

Rarely has a presidential decision resulted so immediately in what his own party leaders have described as disastrous consequences for American allies and interests. How this decision happened — springing from an “off-script moment” with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, in the words of a senior American diplomat — likely will be debated for years by historians, Middle East experts and conspiracy theorists.

But this much already is clear: Mr. Trump ignored months of warnings from his advisers about what calamities likely would ensue if he followed his instincts to pull back from Syria and abandon America’s longtime allies, the Kurds. He had no Plan B, other than to leave. The only surprise is how swiftly it all collapsed around the president and his depleted, inexperienced foreign policy team.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/world/middleeast/trump-turkey-syria.html

"likely will be debated for years by historians, Middle East experts and conspiracy theorists." = the classic 'was he trying to play chess, or is he just really, really fucking stupid' debate

"He had no Plan B, other than to leave." = fake opinion; plan B is always to sue them

springing from an “off-script moment” with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, in the words of a senior American diplomat

that's an extremely generous characterisation of what happened

btw, countdown to the moment trump declares that the kurds are traitors, because now they're fighting with Assad against Turkey. this will happen within the week, i would guess, possibly even this afternoon

Check Twitter.

"....Democrat’s game was foiled when we caught Schiff fraudulently making up my Ukraine conversation, when I released the exact conversation Transcript, and when Ukrainian President and the Foreign Minister said there was NO PRESSURE, very normal talk! A total Impeachment Scam!"

got that far, gave up

very normal talk

Expert Presidential Advisors: Here are the pertinent facts about the situation on Syrian border. Here is the outcome we are trying to avoid and the better outcome we realistically think we can achieve. This is the policy designed to address those facts and achieve that outcome. Do you have any questions?

Trump: Have you seen my sharpie?

you see, trump released the "exact conversation Transcript", and it was schiff who tried to fool everyone with his fake recount of it. everyone was very fooled by schiff! bad man! bad!

(btw i apologize for being a bit annoyed at those who were paying so much attention to the transcript vs summary thing, the day they released it. it didn't seem that important to me because i thought it would be impossibly stupid for anyone to confuse the two

and yet

Expert Presidential Advisors: Here are the pertinent facts about the situation on Syrian border. Here is the outcome we are trying to avoid and the better outcome we realistically think we can achieve. This is the policy designed to address those facts and achieve that outcome. Do you have any questions?

fake hypothetical synopsis: his advisors are like "yes sir!""yes sir!" "oh wow, great! yes sir mr president! don't get mad and yell or tweet or fire me! yes sir! yes sir!"

Hmmm. So, you think they all call him "Sir", eh. Where have I seen that before?

in his dreams, where the things that are not real become real:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/sir-trump-telltale-word-false/index.html

another small wrinkle:

And over the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, about 250 miles from the Syrian border, according to two American officials.

Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan’s hostages. To fly them out of Incirlik would be to mark the de facto end of the Turkish-American alliance. To keep them there, though, is to perpetuate a nuclear vulnerability that should have been eliminated years ago.

“I think this is a first — a country with U.S. nuclear weapons stationed in it literally firing artillery at US forces,” Jeffrey Lewis of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies wrote last week.

*gulp*

Don't worry, isn't Rick Perry in charge of the nuclear arsenal?

we're good

President Trump’s acquiescence to Turkey’s move to send troops deep inside Syrian territory has in only one week’s time turned into a bloody carnage, forced the abandonment of a successful five-year-long American project to keep the peace on a volatile border

Historians may question whether funding, arming and training the Kurds, funding, arming and training the Arab militias murdering the Kurds and selling Turkey the weapons they’re using to bomb the Kurds, was successfully keeping the peace, idk. Trump may have triggered the crisis by withdrawing US troops from East of the Euphrates but let’s not pretend that anyone responsible for creating a situation in which the only thing stopping America’s allies from killing wach other was the physical presence of American troops deserves a pat on the back.

Rick Perry in charge of the nuclear arsenal?

Rick Perry has resigned but strictly speaking, no, the DOE handles nuclear waste and nuclear material, but deployed weapons fall under the DOD.

ah

DOE also does all of the nuclear weapons manufacture, maintenance, and storage, and transport of weapons until and after they're in military custody. They support the storage of some 2500 warheads / cores at Kirtland Underground Munitions Maintenance and Storage Complex, abutting the airport at Albuquerque, NM.

Anyone who wants to assist Syria in protecting the Kurds is good with me, whether it is Russia, China, or Napoleon Bonaparte. I hope they all do great, we are 7,000 miles away!

Some people want the United States to protect the 7,000 mile away Border of Syria, presided over by Bashar al-Assad, our enemy. At the same time, Syria and whoever they chose to help, wants naturally to protect the Kurds........I would much rather focus on our Southern Border which abuts and is part of the United States of America. And by the way, numbers are way down and the WALL is being built!

good to know that numbers are way down

Definitely one that he didn't write, since it uses "abuts" correctly.

I am growing the Republican Party tremendously - just look at the numbers, way up!

we've come a long way baby

as bad as i think he's going to be, he's always worse, in all directions

gross
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/465739-louisiana-republicans-score-big-legislative-wins

DOE also does all of the nuclear weapons manufacture, maintenance, and storage, and transport of weapons until and after they're in military custody. They support the storage of some 2500 warheads / cores at Kirtland Underground Munitions Maintenance and Storage Complex, abutting the airport at Albuquerque, NM.

it’s just energy delivery, nbd

Impressively quiet news day, just wanted to bump this thread so we could remember all the good times we've had

Well, this happened
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trumps-former-top-russia-adviser-to-testify-in-house-impeachment-probe/2019/10/14/e6015c1c-ee34-11e9-8693-f487e46784aa_story.html

Fiona Hill, the White House’s former top Russia adviser, told impeachment investigators on Monday that Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, ran a shadow foreign policy in Ukraine that circumvented U.S. officials and career diplomats in order to personally benefit President Trump, according to a person familiar with her testimony.

NEWS: Sondland will also testify that after he attended Zelensky’s inauguration in May, he met with Trump, Rick Perry and Kurt Volker in the Oval Office. Trump told them that any in-person meeting between Trump and Zelensky would have to be approved by Giuliani. - @JoshNBCNews

— Geoff Bennett (@GeoffRBennett) October 15, 2019

And since we discussed whether the whitehouse can stop people from testifying

Lots of hand waving at supposed privileges and vaguely threatening language from the WH here, but the thing this letter really reveals is the weakness of their position. If people want to testify, the WH can’t do anything to stop them. https://t.co/JaFR4twu6G

— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) October 15, 2019

That's the stuff

i think it's weird giuliani didn't get any formal position. maybe that was part of the dumbass scheme.

That’s an oops

Breaking: Bolton instructed aide to report Giuliani pressure campaign to White House lawyer. “I am not part of whatever drug deal Rudy and Mulvaney are cooking up,” Bolton said, according to testimony to House investigators. @npfandos https://t.co/GO1pnMSyBl

— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) October 15, 2019

lol

Not sure there is a formal position that can just circumvent the State Department

Son-In-Law?

secretary of crime

lol

i hereby nominate myself for this illustrious position *shakes ur hand, slides other hand into ur wallet to finesse ur cash*

https://frinkiac.com/gif/S05E03/973655/978660.gif?b64lines=V0FMTEVUIElOU1BFQ1RPUi4=

(l to r) me, the three richest ppl in america

Neil Cavuto is all outta fucks to give pic.twitter.com/rQYGx2nRaj

— Ron DOV (@rez512) October 14, 2019

whoops didn't realize that was old

Neil Cavuto could have made the same commentary three months ago, minus about three or four examples out of the twenty five or thirty he used. But they could have been easily replaced by others just as true and worth mentioning. But for some reason he didn't make that commentary three months ago. Or seven months ago. Or a year ago. Why not? Why now?