PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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As usual, there's a sense in which only the privileged have access to political discourse and/or action. Modern democracy is sadly intent on staying true to its Athenian roots, back when only 30% of the population (adult male citizens) could vote.

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pomenitul, Sunday, 13 October 2019 10:54 (six years ago)

Just asked a relative who actually works in polling stations at every election, and was told this is utter bollocks and no-one but no-one impersonates other people at the polling booths. Which we all knew anyway.

living in the heart of the beat (Matt #2), Sunday, 13 October 2019 11:07 (six years ago)

previous Queen's speeches to get voted down were in 1886, 1892 and 1923. i presume this voter ID thing is probably some 4d draughts move or something but I hope to fuck it gets voted down.

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 11:48 (six years ago)

Even if the Queens speech gets passed, I’m not sure any of the individual bills will.

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 11:58 (six years ago)

so there will be separate votes on the bills? I thought it was all somehow weaved into the Queen's Speech - worst bullshit costume drama ever!

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:03 (six years ago)

The queen’s speech is laying out their programme for government - we will introduce legislation on the following bills in this session, etc. The Queen’s speech being voted down used to be an automatic confidence vote because it failing means the house doesn’t support the programme for government being set out and none of the laws can pass (implicit).

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:08 (six years ago)

i think now QS being voted down leads immediately to a confidence vote? (probably i shd check this)

mark s, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:09 (six years ago)

Dennis Skinner always heckles the speech as well

https://youtu.be/zIktNjgbf4s

https://youtu.be/4VK96xXFf3o

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:09 (six years ago)

i think now QS being voted down leads immediately to a confidence vote? (probably i shd check this)


Not under FTPA, previously the convention was that the PM would be expected to resign if their Queens speech was voted down.

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:13 (six years ago)

Roads tomorrow going to be hideous between this & XR, ugh

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:13 (six years ago)

any chance of the so-called beast of Bolsover throwing a bucket of offal over her and calling her a parasitic nazi this time?

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:15 (six years ago)

yes looking it up belatedly i think i'm conflating two things:
i: the assumption -- which was probably firmer two years ago than it is now -- that the QS being voted down would immediately be followed as sensible practice by a VONC
ii: an actual formal rule-based principle that the QS being voted down must as of right be be followed by a VONC

ii is not the case, and i is one of many assumptions abt parliamentary norms which is now in question

mark s, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:21 (six years ago)

my fave royal heckler was John Davidson (the Scottish guy with the swearing form of Tourettes) who called prince charles a parasite and told him camilla is a shit ride!

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:24 (six years ago)

wow a home secretary that smirks at the prospect of what is left of UK manufacturing getting wiped out, love these guys.

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:18 (six years ago)

priti patel definitely pulled the wings off butterflies as a child

imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:19 (six years ago)

dear god Blackford's a smug cunt tho

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:24 (six years ago)

Despite all her rage, she's still just a rat in a cage.

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pomenitul, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:24 (six years ago)

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the self-styled "humble crofter" and big country fan is a bit of a cunt tbf!

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:26 (six years ago)

Pete Wishart, also SNP, was actually in Big Country.

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:32 (six years ago)

no Runrig members no credibility

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:35 (six years ago)

He was also in Runrig!

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:42 (six years ago)

She really does have just the one setting.

If I was the government I wouldn't be sending Priti Patel out anywhere to talk about anything.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:53 (six years ago)

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Credibility Unlocked

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:08 (six years ago)

No wonder Scottish Labour is so fucked

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

The most remarkable feature of Brexit? For the first time in history, Ireland is more powerful than England

Because Ireland is backed by Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Holland, Sweden, Italy, Poland, Denmark, Belgium + 16 more Euro nations

England doesn’t even have the UK

— Andrew Adonis (@Andrew_Adonis) October 12, 2019

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:19 (six years ago)

i can't

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

It is ironic as usually everyone loves England.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:24 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGwl2CzX0AAOC0b?format=jpg&name=large
Good to know Brian Eno isn’t a Tory.

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:57 (six years ago)

i thought he was Lib Dem tbh

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

a chillingly credible accusation tbh

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:32 (six years ago)

Eno endorsed Corbyn on Marr and criticised the unrelenting media campaign against him - wouldn't be surprised if both the other two (albeit one of them a shy voter!) voted tory

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

But which of the others? Honestly thought they could both be nailed on Tories

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

Maybe Brooklyn votes Labour lol

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

Brooklyn owes Kier Starmer Under Me

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:37 (six years ago)

Eno might not be Lib Dem now but he certainly used to be.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lib-dems-recruit-eno-as-advisor-766175.html

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:41 (six years ago)

Beckhams have got to be Tories.

Robbie probably doesn’t vote at all.

coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:44 (six years ago)

Brexit Party for Robbie. He's from Stoke, after all.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:46 (six years ago)

Robbie might just be one of us, my money is on him

anvil, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:48 (six years ago)

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lool, down with the kids the street eh Brian?
"Mr Eno said: "Because of what I do I have some sort of credibility with young people which means that they are probably willing to talk to me in a way they might not to others."
nothing reaches out more to young people better than an old bastard 86% of them have probably never heard of!

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:49 (six years ago)

Robbie Williams strikes me as an absolute tory

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:51 (six years ago)

The piece I posted says that two of the three households are Labour. Can’t be both of them. Eno supports Corbyn as calz said!

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:52 (six years ago)

Brexit Party for Robbie. He's from Stoke, after all.


Ah but he supported Remain...as did the Beckhams.

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:52 (six years ago)

The Beckhams have a house each and Eno lodges with Robbie, for those with reading comprehension issues

anvil, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:53 (six years ago)

Has the MP ever considered the possibility that they're just saying they vote Labour to get rid of her? It could be like when they did a survey in where they asked Glaswegians if they would support England in the World Cup Finals and, supposedly, the majority said they would - when what probably happened was most of them when asked said, "Aye, right".

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:57 (six years ago)

Not sure where he sits on the political spectrum https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/robbie-williams-blasts-peoples-vote-13955249

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:00 (six years ago)

lol robbie williams is so depressing

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:04 (six years ago)

shy tory who doesn't fancy paying higher taxes, but puts on a pragmatic remain voter who accepts the result facade for the consumption of his fans

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:06 (six years ago)

see labour have gone w “let the people decide” as their soundbitey brexit position

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

Well, it’s only four words long and if it stops Fiona Bruce making disingenuous duhhh faces....

coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:21 (six years ago)

I suspect that many of the bbc reporters we accuse of being disingenuous are in fact quite stupid.

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:47 (six years ago)


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