As usual, there's a sense in which only the privileged have access to political discourse and/or action. Modern democracy is sadly intent on staying true to its Athenian roots, back when only 30% of the population (adult male citizens) could vote.
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― pomenitul, Sunday, 13 October 2019 10:54 (six years ago)
Just asked a relative who actually works in polling stations at every election, and was told this is utter bollocks and no-one but no-one impersonates other people at the polling booths. Which we all knew anyway.
― living in the heart of the beat (Matt #2), Sunday, 13 October 2019 11:07 (six years ago)
previous Queen's speeches to get voted down were in 1886, 1892 and 1923. i presume this voter ID thing is probably some 4d draughts move or something but I hope to fuck it gets voted down.
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 11:48 (six years ago)
Even if the Queens speech gets passed, I’m not sure any of the individual bills will.
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 11:58 (six years ago)
so there will be separate votes on the bills? I thought it was all somehow weaved into the Queen's Speech - worst bullshit costume drama ever!
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:03 (six years ago)
The queen’s speech is laying out their programme for government - we will introduce legislation on the following bills in this session, etc. The Queen’s speech being voted down used to be an automatic confidence vote because it failing means the house doesn’t support the programme for government being set out and none of the laws can pass (implicit).
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:08 (six years ago)
i think now QS being voted down leads immediately to a confidence vote? (probably i shd check this)
― mark s, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:09 (six years ago)
Dennis Skinner always heckles the speech as wellhttps://youtu.be/zIktNjgbf4shttps://youtu.be/4VK96xXFf3o
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:09 (six years ago)
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:13 (six years ago)
Roads tomorrow going to be hideous between this & XR, ugh
any chance of the so-called beast of Bolsover throwing a bucket of offal over her and calling her a parasitic nazi this time?
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:15 (six years ago)
yes looking it up belatedly i think i'm conflating two things:i: the assumption -- which was probably firmer two years ago than it is now -- that the QS being voted down would immediately be followed as sensible practice by a VONC ii: an actual formal rule-based principle that the QS being voted down must as of right be be followed by a VONC
ii is not the case, and i is one of many assumptions abt parliamentary norms which is now in question
― mark s, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:21 (six years ago)
my fave royal heckler was John Davidson (the Scottish guy with the swearing form of Tourettes) who called prince charles a parasite and told him camilla is a shit ride!
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:24 (six years ago)
wow a home secretary that smirks at the prospect of what is left of UK manufacturing getting wiped out, love these guys.
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:18 (six years ago)
priti patel definitely pulled the wings off butterflies as a child
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:19 (six years ago)
dear god Blackford's a smug cunt tho
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:24 (six years ago)
Despite all her rage, she's still just a rat in a cage.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:24 (six years ago)
xpthe self-styled "humble crofter" and big country fan is a bit of a cunt tbf!
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:26 (six years ago)
Pete Wishart, also SNP, was actually in Big Country.
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:32 (six years ago)
no Runrig members no credibility
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:35 (six years ago)
He was also in Runrig!
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:42 (six years ago)
She really does have just the one setting.
If I was the government I wouldn't be sending Priti Patel out anywhere to talk about anything.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:53 (six years ago)
Credibility Unlocked
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:08 (six years ago)
No wonder Scottish Labour is so fucked
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:38 (six years ago)
The most remarkable feature of Brexit? For the first time in history, Ireland is more powerful than EnglandBecause Ireland is backed by Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Holland, Sweden, Italy, Poland, Denmark, Belgium + 16 more Euro nationsEngland doesn’t even have the UK— Andrew Adonis (@Andrew_Adonis) October 12, 2019
― plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:19 (six years ago)
i can't
― plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:20 (six years ago)
It is ironic as usually everyone loves England.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:24 (six years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGwl2CzX0AAOC0b?format=jpg&name=largeGood to know Brian Eno isn’t a Tory.
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:57 (six years ago)
i thought he was Lib Dem tbh
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:30 (six years ago)
a chillingly credible accusation tbh
― NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:32 (six years ago)
Eno endorsed Corbyn on Marr and criticised the unrelenting media campaign against him - wouldn't be surprised if both the other two (albeit one of them a shy voter!) voted tory
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:33 (six years ago)
But which of the others? Honestly thought they could both be nailed on Tories
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:34 (six years ago)
Maybe Brooklyn votes Labour lol
Brooklyn owes Kier Starmer Under Me
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:37 (six years ago)
Eno might not be Lib Dem now but he certainly used to be.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lib-dems-recruit-eno-as-advisor-766175.html
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:41 (six years ago)
Beckhams have got to be Tories.
Robbie probably doesn’t vote at all.
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:44 (six years ago)
Brexit Party for Robbie. He's from Stoke, after all.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:46 (six years ago)
Robbie might just be one of us, my money is on him
― anvil, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:48 (six years ago)
xxxplool, down with the kids the street eh Brian?"Mr Eno said: "Because of what I do I have some sort of credibility with young people which means that they are probably willing to talk to me in a way they might not to others."nothing reaches out more to young people better than an old bastard 86% of them have probably never heard of!
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:49 (six years ago)
Robbie Williams strikes me as an absolute tory
― plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:51 (six years ago)
The piece I posted says that two of the three households are Labour. Can’t be both of them. Eno supports Corbyn as calz said!
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:52 (six years ago)
The Beckhams have a house each and Eno lodges with Robbie, for those with reading comprehension issues
― anvil, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:53 (six years ago)
Has the MP ever considered the possibility that they're just saying they vote Labour to get rid of her? It could be like when they did a survey in where they asked Glaswegians if they would support England in the World Cup Finals and, supposedly, the majority said they would - when what probably happened was most of them when asked said, "Aye, right".
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:57 (six years ago)
Not sure where he sits on the political spectrum https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/robbie-williams-blasts-peoples-vote-13955249
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:00 (six years ago)
lol robbie williams is so depressing
― plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:04 (six years ago)
shy tory who doesn't fancy paying higher taxes, but puts on a pragmatic remain voter who accepts the result facade for the consumption of his fans
― calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:06 (six years ago)
see labour have gone w “let the people decide” as their soundbitey brexit position
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:13 (six years ago)
Well, it’s only four words long and if it stops Fiona Bruce making disingenuous duhhh faces....
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:21 (six years ago)
I suspect that many of the bbc reporters we accuse of being disingenuous are in fact quite stupid.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:47 (six years ago)