PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Wait, you can vote without an ID in Britain? How does that work?

Asking for ID at the polling station is hardly a US-only practice btw:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_Identification_laws

No shit but in most other countries having some sort of National ID is compulsory.

I always take my passport with me& polling card even though you don’t need either, but that’s cos I started voting in Ireland. There will be loads of people in the UK without a passport or form of ID acceptable.

turn up - say I'm ||||||||. they ask you your address, then score it out on the list. done

afaik in-person voter fraud is not really an issue, despite the lax approach to voter ID

Weird.

Yeah exactly - this is 100% dog whistling to the crowd who think Labour are constantly doing electoral fraud.

This is some evil shit

As gyac says, there is no compulsory national ID in the UK

I mean, it would still be evil even if there were obv

There is no compulsory national ID in Canada either.

There are no "daily activities" where I ever need photo ID which is handy cos. I've only got a passport. Pretty sure there are millions who don't even have that

this has to be voted down, if they rush this through Parliament before a snap election the job is completely fucked, potentially hundreds of thousands of voters won't have photo ID. This is the type of (unnecessary) reform that would take years of planning to prepare people for an election, unless your plan is to stop them voting. Electoral fraud is a micro-problem in the 0.0 recurring %s.

I've never had a fucking passport or driving license in my life

A lot of times when people say 'this is an assault on democracy!' there's some kind of reach going on, or a kind of metaphor required, but this is quite literally an assault on democracy

There is no compulsory national ID in Canada either.

Commonwealth though.

Anyway, in Quebec at least you can vote with your health card, but there appears to be no such thing here.

100% racist bullshit from Eric Pickles.

Relevant tweet from Lammy

There was just one conviction for voter impersonation at the last election. 3.5 million citizens do not have a photo ID. Make no mistake. This is a blatant attempt to rig the system and disempower poor and marginalised groups. https://t.co/bHexuHoo3R

— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) October 13, 2019

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/five-things-we-have-learnt-about-englands-voter-id-trials-in-the-2019-local-elections/

Piece on the voter ID pilots

Awareness of ID requirements also differs across demographic groups: those aged 18–34 were less likely to have heard about the pilots than those aged 55+; similarly, those from a BAME background were less likely than white respondents to be aware of the ID requirements.

@AdamBienkov
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Priti Patel smirking as Andrew Marr reads out warnings from manufacturers about the potential dire economic impact of a no-deal Brexit on their business.

Marr: “I’m not sure why you’re laughing.”

She really does have just the one setting.

As usual, there's a sense in which only the privileged have access to political discourse and/or action. Modern democracy is sadly intent on staying true to its Athenian roots, back when only 30% of the population (adult male citizens) could vote.

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Just asked a relative who actually works in polling stations at every election, and was told this is utter bollocks and no-one but no-one impersonates other people at the polling booths. Which we all knew anyway.

previous Queen's speeches to get voted down were in 1886, 1892 and 1923. i presume this voter ID thing is probably some 4d draughts move or something but I hope to fuck it gets voted down.

Even if the Queens speech gets passed, I’m not sure any of the individual bills will.

so there will be separate votes on the bills? I thought it was all somehow weaved into the Queen's Speech - worst bullshit costume drama ever!

The queen’s speech is laying out their programme for government - we will introduce legislation on the following bills in this session, etc. The Queen’s speech being voted down used to be an automatic confidence vote because it failing means the house doesn’t support the programme for government being set out and none of the laws can pass (implicit).

i think now QS being voted down leads immediately to a confidence vote? (probably i shd check this)

Dennis Skinner always heckles the speech as well

https://youtu.be/zIktNjgbf4s

https://youtu.be/4VK96xXFf3o

i think now QS being voted down leads immediately to a confidence vote? (probably i shd check this)

Roads tomorrow going to be hideous between this & XR, ugh

any chance of the so-called beast of Bolsover throwing a bucket of offal over her and calling her a parasitic nazi this time?

yes looking it up belatedly i think i'm conflating two things:
i: the assumption -- which was probably firmer two years ago than it is now -- that the QS being voted down would immediately be followed as sensible practice by a VONC
ii: an actual formal rule-based principle that the QS being voted down must as of right be be followed by a VONC

ii is not the case, and i is one of many assumptions abt parliamentary norms which is now in question

my fave royal heckler was John Davidson (the Scottish guy with the swearing form of Tourettes) who called prince charles a parasite and told him camilla is a shit ride!

wow a home secretary that smirks at the prospect of what is left of UK manufacturing getting wiped out, love these guys.

priti patel definitely pulled the wings off butterflies as a child

dear god Blackford's a smug cunt tho

Despite all her rage, she's still just a rat in a cage.

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the self-styled "humble crofter" and big country fan is a bit of a cunt tbf!

Pete Wishart, also SNP, was actually in Big Country.

no Runrig members no credibility

He was also in Runrig!

She really does have just the one setting.

If I was the government I wouldn't be sending Priti Patel out anywhere to talk about anything.

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Credibility Unlocked

No wonder Scottish Labour is so fucked

The most remarkable feature of Brexit? For the first time in history, Ireland is more powerful than England

Because Ireland is backed by Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Holland, Sweden, Italy, Poland, Denmark, Belgium + 16 more Euro nations

England doesn’t even have the UK

— Andrew Adonis (@Andrew_Adonis) October 12, 2019

i can't

It is ironic as usually everyone loves England.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGwl2CzX0AAOC0b?format=jpg&name=large
Good to know Brian Eno isn’t a Tory.

i thought he was Lib Dem tbh

a chillingly credible accusation tbh