PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

attention seeking right wing bigotry disguised as libertarianism is their usual mo.

they like to show their sponsors that they are good vfm and the bbc love them.

Claire Fox, Brendan O'Neill... if only more people vigorously scrutinised ideas like these great lads do!

They seem particularly delighted by Ella Whelan at the BBC.

Distill everything bad about the SWP and mix it with 'rivers of blood' types.

Reading up on the Spiked people and trying to make sense of their stances, are they accelerationists or just incoherent? Idgi

As far as I can tell, the Spiked/Quilette brand is about loudly proclaiming yrself left-wing while attacking every socially left-wing cause and just never commenting on anything relating to economics so people don't call yr bluff.

has corbyn ever expressed support (or "adulation", as I've just seen claimed) for assad, putin or xi?

My favourite spiked appearances are when some second generation cunt like big head Brendan or Ella Whelab gets put on by someone more representative.

The classic:

We are all @andrewismaxwell pic.twitter.com/cdppxhsR18

— Naomi O'Leary (@NaomiOhReally) November 4, 2018

“I don’t like this idea that the Irish are super fans of the EU… every time the Irish have been asked to vote on the expansion of the EU, they said: No thanks.” Brendan O’Neill of @spikedonline who hails from Irish ‘peasant stock’#Brexit #politicslive https://t.co/32y2XeRbQ7 pic.twitter.com/fSJ5rNP5JB

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) November 2, 2018

We are all Peter Geoghegan. pic.twitter.com/2hchL5KioO

— Robert Of The Isles (@RobDunsmore) October 3, 2019

hah! that "Irish peasant stock" one was a classic of its genre

Also, this is extremely good
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGraTgxXkAAmGGO?format=jpg&name=large

lol suck it squaddies, literally lower than cat shit

That is extremely good!

Sincerely hope this is true because there’s a decent chance mad Tories will vote down the queen’s speech because of it

Look it's a basic human rights issue, if you make it to 60 then your war crimes don't count any more

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00438/news-graphics-2008-_438180a.jpg

They seem particularly delighted by Ella Whelan at the BBC.

I just turned on Sky News and guess who is reviewing the papers?

Poor Ella having to tiptoe round a smear story about Corbyn and the IRA because, of course, Claire Fox and her Revolutionary Communist Party chums actually were gungho bullet-not-ballot Provo cheerleaders.

This is simply voter suppression https://t.co/boJgCEIq5N https://t.co/2TU8lGmk6F

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) October 13, 2019

great, lets copy America and disenfranchise all the poor voters. I've only read the paywalled headline so it might not mean anything. but ftr I don't possess a driving license, nor a passport. Fuck off and die you moribund, dying party.

Voters across the country will have to show identification such as driving licences or passports before casting their ballot, under plans to be unveiled in the Queen's Speech.

Ministers are planning to introduce a legal requirement for voters to produce photographic ID, in order to safeguard against electoral fraud.

A new Electoral Integrity Bill will also limit the number of relatives for whom anyone can act as a proxy, and outlaw the "harvesting" of postal ballots by political parties and activists.

The proposed roll-out of a requirement for photo ID is likely to be opposed by Labour, which claimed that a series of pilot schemes resulted in some people being unable to vote and were a "blatant attempt" to "rig" elections.

However the Government will insist changes are needed to safeguard against fraud and corruption. The proposals draw on the recommendations of a major report by Sir Eric Pickles, the former Conservative Cabinet minister, in 2016, which said there was evidence of voter fraud “especially in communities of Pakistani and Bangladeshi background”. Sir Eric warned of concerns that cases had been ignored because of “over-sensitivities about ethnicity and religion”.

The number of swing voters has hit record levels at recent elections

The report said there was a risk of "significant abuse" of the electoral system if people were able to impersonate others at polling stations with little risk of detection. It also referred to "instances of campaigners asking people to hand over their postal votes" in areas such as Tower Hamlets, in East London.

The Electoral Integrity Bill is expected to roll out a national requirement for voters to produce photographic identification in order to cast their ballot, rather than simply stating their address. Similar measures have been in place in Northern Ireland since 2002.

It will also make it illegal to cast a proxy ballot on behalf of more than two voters, or for political parties to "harvest" postal ballot papers to deliver them to polling stations.

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A Government source said: “A secure electoral system is vital. By changing the law to require voters to show some ID, as they do in many other daily activities, and taking steps to cut down proxy and postal voter fraud, we can ensure that everyone's vote counts and strengthen public trust in our democracy.”

Sources said voters without the required documentation would be able to apply for a free “electoral ID” from their local council.

When you can’t win the vote, suppress it. Feel like this Queen’s speech has a decent chance of being voted down though.

Wait, you can vote without an ID in Britain? How does that work?

Asking for ID at the polling station is hardly a US-only practice btw:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_Identification_laws

No shit but in most other countries having some sort of National ID is compulsory.

I always take my passport with me& polling card even though you don’t need either, but that’s cos I started voting in Ireland. There will be loads of people in the UK without a passport or form of ID acceptable.

turn up - say I'm ||||||||. they ask you your address, then score it out on the list. done

afaik in-person voter fraud is not really an issue, despite the lax approach to voter ID

Weird.

Yeah exactly - this is 100% dog whistling to the crowd who think Labour are constantly doing electoral fraud.

This is some evil shit

As gyac says, there is no compulsory national ID in the UK

I mean, it would still be evil even if there were obv

There is no compulsory national ID in Canada either.

There are no "daily activities" where I ever need photo ID which is handy cos. I've only got a passport. Pretty sure there are millions who don't even have that

this has to be voted down, if they rush this through Parliament before a snap election the job is completely fucked, potentially hundreds of thousands of voters won't have photo ID. This is the type of (unnecessary) reform that would take years of planning to prepare people for an election, unless your plan is to stop them voting. Electoral fraud is a micro-problem in the 0.0 recurring %s.

I've never had a fucking passport or driving license in my life

A lot of times when people say 'this is an assault on democracy!' there's some kind of reach going on, or a kind of metaphor required, but this is quite literally an assault on democracy

There is no compulsory national ID in Canada either.

Commonwealth though.

Anyway, in Quebec at least you can vote with your health card, but there appears to be no such thing here.

100% racist bullshit from Eric Pickles.

Relevant tweet from Lammy

There was just one conviction for voter impersonation at the last election. 3.5 million citizens do not have a photo ID. Make no mistake. This is a blatant attempt to rig the system and disempower poor and marginalised groups. https://t.co/bHexuHoo3R

— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) October 13, 2019

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/five-things-we-have-learnt-about-englands-voter-id-trials-in-the-2019-local-elections/

Piece on the voter ID pilots

Awareness of ID requirements also differs across demographic groups: those aged 18–34 were less likely to have heard about the pilots than those aged 55+; similarly, those from a BAME background were less likely than white respondents to be aware of the ID requirements.

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Priti Patel smirking as Andrew Marr reads out warnings from manufacturers about the potential dire economic impact of a no-deal Brexit on their business.

Marr: “I’m not sure why you’re laughing.”

She really does have just the one setting.

As usual, there's a sense in which only the privileged have access to political discourse and/or action. Modern democracy is sadly intent on staying true to its Athenian roots, back when only 30% of the population (adult male citizens) could vote.

xp

Just asked a relative who actually works in polling stations at every election, and was told this is utter bollocks and no-one but no-one impersonates other people at the polling booths. Which we all knew anyway.

previous Queen's speeches to get voted down were in 1886, 1892 and 1923. i presume this voter ID thing is probably some 4d draughts move or something but I hope to fuck it gets voted down.

Even if the Queens speech gets passed, I’m not sure any of the individual bills will.

so there will be separate votes on the bills? I thought it was all somehow weaved into the Queen's Speech - worst bullshit costume drama ever!

The queen’s speech is laying out their programme for government - we will introduce legislation on the following bills in this session, etc. The Queen’s speech being voted down used to be an automatic confidence vote because it failing means the house doesn’t support the programme for government being set out and none of the laws can pass (implicit).

i think now QS being voted down leads immediately to a confidence vote? (probably i shd check this)

Dennis Skinner always heckles the speech as well

https://youtu.be/zIktNjgbf4s

https://youtu.be/4VK96xXFf3o

i think now QS being voted down leads immediately to a confidence vote? (probably i shd check this)

Roads tomorrow going to be hideous between this & XR, ugh