THE IRISHMAN, A Martin Scorsese Picture with de Niro, Pacino, Pesci, Keitel

I want to see Robert DeNiro boxing a kangaroo

he missed his chance in the late '70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaE8gZUzwNA

(amazing how fast Elliott Gould's career went into the crapper)

marty says more things, sounds more like old man yelling at cloud. awaiting his further befuddlement in the face of demands for a thorough explanation of why he, Scorsese, an American cinema director of Italian descent, would cast an American actor of Italian descent in the title role when Liam Neeson was available.

still really looking forward to this.

Was going to say maybe Neeson was too tall but Sheeran was 6’4”

Sheeeran was Philly Irish, not Irish Irish

lol yeah casting scandals about a buncha white guys, v likely

icymi, DeNiro is part Irish

idk I hold out hope that some day they will find a jewish actor capable of playing Jesus

A hit, a very palpable hit.

De Niro is as Irish as he is Italian iirc

Almost as if we discussed that at the beginning of this thread. Morbs even insulted someone

The Frank Sheeran book, as Morbs said above, is a great read. I'm racing through it but that's not tough going at all. Excited to see how Scorsese approached this material. In my mind's eye I see Sheeran played by Holt McCallany rather DeNiro but, hey, nobody's complainin' here.

*rather than

De Niro is as Irish as he is Italian iirc

Yes, he's American.

uh guys this does not need to be re-litigated.

rogermex sees this film as necessary anti-union education

ffs

just havin' a little fun, rog

Lol from now on movie characters must be played by their real life counterparts

anyway the deNiro-Pesci dynamic should be different this time as Pesci is playing Russell Bufalino, ie Sheeran's "godfather." Also, Bufalino described as softspoken!

otoh Sheeran said Hoffa threw a tantrum twice a day to keep his temper in shape, so in Pacino's wheelhouse.

Pacino and Pesci screamed their lines on set and they dampened them in post

E Howard Hunt shows up in the book, Nixon AG John Mitchell even moreso. And a 2-page cameo by Joe Biden!

The Brandt book has many respectable skeptics re Sheeran's veracity, but for the movie, who cares?

Yes, "who cares?" indeed.

sez the JFK fan!

David Ferrie is in the book briefly but apaprently not the film; too bad, Pesci could've done a dual role.

AFI Silver has just announced a run starting November 15. Landmark E Street has the film on its Coming Soon page, but no start date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j1T5xjwGJQ

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I'm gonna say...Kevin Fallon, Senior Entertainment Reporter?

let's keep that M*rvel madness outta this thread

Quite a lot of Touchez pas au grisbi (1954) in The Irishman and that's a very good thing.

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I daren't visit the Marvel thread

seeing at MoMA on 11/9

apparently none of the Italian Beatles will be attending

Screening at the Castro for several days as well. Preceded byva screening of the recent Dylan doc w Marty in attendance

I saw it yesterday morning. I liked it.

Saw it opening night, it was very good. the first two hours were so preordained, so much gangster fan service scripting, so much special effects and explosions that i did have the "well how is this different from a marvel movie" thought but the last 30 minutes really redeem the film and act as apologia for scorcese's big dick bad guy fantasy fuel. DeNiro is fine, Pacino is a restrained as he's likely to be for the rest of his career and Pesci is fucking amazing as the most menacing grampa ever. He'd be winning a best supporting actor Oscar as long as he did the press stuff and is friendly on camera which i suppose he won't do.

it is a FAST 3 1/2 hours if you can believe it.

were you aware (as I only just became) that Sheehan's story is bogus, and if so how did it affect the experience?

Sheeran

Isn't every gangster story largely bogus

I don't know, maybe the peripheral details but not the central thesis?

I generally approach any gangster story as a fantasy.

some for me e.g. Goodfellas, Donnie Brasco have a little more life than others for being based on true stories

i was not aware of how "real" the story was but the meaninglessness of these gangsters' lives and their totally full-of-shit lives is absolutely at the heart of the film... so you guys are OTM with what i think Irishman (which was clearly meant to be called I HEARD YOU PAINT HOUSES and which it should be called) is about

I have no idea if it's bogus or not, but all sorts of ppl who've dealt with this world for decades differ on that. And I'm not interested in "deciding."

btw ulysses all the Osc*r supporting talk is around Pacino

Hoffa - GREAT ASS!

talk about a 3-hour film that felt longer...

were you aware (as I only just became) that Sheehan's story is bogus, and if so how did it affect the experience?

I don't know short of a ruling what would make an "official" debunkment but I found this enlightening

https://www.thedailybeast.com/martin-scorseses-the-irishman-is-a-big-lie-heres-what-really-happened-to-jimmy-hoffa

I don't get the point of making a big deal of this in the context of the movie.

I get why Don Shirley's family objected to Green Book (Joey Lips's white knighting) but this Scorcese film, if it's entertaining, whatever.

Zodiac was based on a book written by a discredited author who floated debunked theories and yet i enjoyed that one even with that knowledge

a 'countermyth' to JFK also part of this

a plausible one, true or not

i had some issues with this but the plot driving forward was not generally one of them. you thought it was slow morbs?