2020 Democratic presidential primary

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I feel like that explanation collides with Occam's Razor...

Frederik B, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:03 (six years ago)

younger ppl are more open to risky/wide variance choices bc they're more flexible - as you get older you become more risk averse. i think this goes to some of the differences in style & temperament between warren + bernie vis-a-vis revolution vs reform

Mordy, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:06 (six years ago)

even tho i think essentially they're promoting the same agenda (and face similar prospects for what can get done in office) bernie frames his critiques as being more radical than they are, and bc of her temperament i think warren's critiques come off as less radical than they are. speaking as someone in the 35-49 demo with a family + a mortgage i see huge issues in our political system and country and believe they need dramatic overhaul but i still desire continuity + stability of some sort so warren seems like a better choice. if i were younger i could imagine being more enthusiastic about bernie.

Mordy, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:07 (six years ago)

face similar prospects for what can get done in office

This is definitely the thing that gives most pause for thought. The ability to actually deliver is an obvious issue. Makes foreign policy more important as its the area where they would have most ability to do that. Bernie has improved on this since 2016 but its still not exactly a strong point for either

anvil, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:31 (six years ago)

younger ppl are more open to risky/wide variance choices bc they're more flexible...


and old people are already covered by Medicare and have paid off their student debt.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:31 (six years ago)

Makes foreign policy more important as its the area where they would have most ability to do that.

unlikely tho that either's fp platform will differ significantly enough that anyone would feel the results domestically

Mordy, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:35 (six years ago)

part of my pref for warren is confidence in her ability to execute and rally allies more broadly bur still without concessions. and her vigor, even before bernie got all stenty.

part of ongoing evals is how would effectively would bernie face down what obama got from gop in resistance? warren? biden?

i dont believe biden would overcome it all based on his shit.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:02 (six years ago)

Scoop: @ewarren has been in contact with @AndrewGillum in recent months, according to multiple sources familiar, who said the talks resemble the kind of courtship that happens when a leading presidential candidate is exploring potential VP contenders. https://t.co/UubzV3FDSm

— Hanna Trudo (@HCTrudo) October 10, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:26 (six years ago)

That would be marvelous if Gillum had won.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:28 (six years ago)

Also, Gillum did have ethics problems after all.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:28 (six years ago)

"Contact" I can easily believe. "Courtship" seems like an extravagant bit of rhetoric.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:31 (six years ago)

US labour rights extremely good

THREAD

We keep hearing about the risk to workers' rights and deregulation from a no-deal Brexit and a Trump trade deal.

But what does this really mean?

Here's a short thread that compares the United States and the UK.

(1/6)

— Tom Kibasi (@TomKibasi) October 10, 2019

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

what are the democratic candidates' stances on each of these

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:52 (six years ago)

usual "there is no national primary" caveats apply but...

the most 🔥🔥 thing about this is you know Trump is going to have to see it on his next Fox News binge

(& promptly embark on yet another twitter rant) pic.twitter.com/FLekJpUtUe

— Taniel (@Taniel) October 10, 2019

With the Fox poll calculated in RCP, the gaps between the top three Dems and Trump have gotten pretty similar.

Biden +6.9
Sanders +5.3
Warren +5.2

In other words the “safe bet” candidate is now doing, uh, less than 2 points better than the “too left wing to win” candidates.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) October 10, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 October 2019 22:22 (six years ago)

if you’re not watching this LGBTQ town hall, wow are you missing something strange. Biden just joked that he was about to come out as gay, then said the public discourse about gays used to be “all about round the clock sex”

— Christina Cauterucci (@c_cauterucci) October 11, 2019

Simon H., Friday, 11 October 2019 00:43 (six years ago)

those were the days my friend

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 October 2019 00:55 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOBwqlP-3ls

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 00:57 (six years ago)

TS: "Shoeless" Joe Jackson vs. "Clueless" Joe Biden

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 11 October 2019 01:35 (six years ago)

One of them belongs in the hall of fame

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 11 October 2019 01:40 (six years ago)

Warren delivered a quality laff line re marriage

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 October 2019 02:10 (six years ago)

lol I had no idea this was even happening. If CNN were a device in my house, it'd be swathed in cobwebs and pizza boxes.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 02:19 (six years ago)

Then it might interest you to learn that CNN is a leader in nude Jake Gyllenhaal content.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 11 October 2019 02:29 (six years ago)

https://66.media.tumblr.com/29ab81ac85ff370644b93bcdef82ed95/tumblr_olrywt7aRH1tvav1do6_r1_400.gif

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 02:32 (six years ago)

IRL giant LOL @Morbs

DJI, Friday, 11 October 2019 02:57 (six years ago)

this is how we got fucking Trump

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 October 2019 18:55 (six years ago)

tbf the President Rock timeline is a lot chiller

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:11 (six years ago)

sure let's help the GOP rehabilitate their image, cool

Simon H., Friday, 11 October 2019 21:06 (six years ago)

exactly

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:07 (six years ago)

"let's try a totally inexperienced famous clown that's NOT a huge racist!"

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:08 (six years ago)

I can smell the smoke from here.

Yerac, Saturday, 12 October 2019 14:46 (six years ago)

Harris and her team have tested this line for months like screenwriters for a Schwarzenegger action film in the nineties.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2019 14:47 (six years ago)

pg&e should do a power shutdown at don jr's house before that burn gets out of control.

Yerac, Saturday, 12 October 2019 14:49 (six years ago)

harris sucks

k3vin k., Sunday, 13 October 2019 00:04 (six years ago)

For most of America’s history, when our companies did better, our workers did better – and America built a thriving middle class. The Accountable Capitalism Act will help realign our skewed market incentives so companies & workers can once again do well together.

— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) October 11, 2019

this is just completely untrue unless somehow 35 years in the middle of the 20th century is "most of American history"

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:09 (six years ago)

Real wages for laborers/industrial workers on average did climb with productivity, though most of the growth was constrained to brief periods like 1836-44, or 1950-1973.

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

The ones that were paid wages.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 14 October 2019 08:39 (six years ago)

I think fear of single payer/M4A explains these results

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:51 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

When they support Warren?

― Frederik B, Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:57 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

they don't believe her

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:00 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I feel like that explanation collides with Occam's Razor...

― Frederik B, Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:03 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Harry Reid tells David Axelrod that he doesn’t think Elizabeth Warren will follow through on ‘Medicare for All.’

“Give her some time, I think that she’s not in love with that, I think that she, you’ll wait and see how that all turns out... oh I know she’s pragmatic, just wait”

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 October 2019 17:45 (six years ago)

Mayor Pete on Elizabeth Warren’s small donor strategy: “We're not going to beat Trump with pocket change”

he is so bad at this

Simon H., Monday, 14 October 2019 17:47 (six years ago)

He has to try to justify his fundraising from big donors somehow, even if the best he can do is that bullshit. He might as well say, “We're not going to beat Trump with just a bunch of little people casting their votes.”

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 14 October 2019 17:52 (six years ago)

Warren is only excluding large donors through primary season. Her campaign has come into some criticism for not excluding PAC money etc in the general.

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Monday, 14 October 2019 17:56 (six years ago)

Mayor Pete is perhaps bitter that he's in a similar trap as Biden, most of his funds have come from donors who've maxed out their $2,800 campaign contribution limit.

I'm sure I'll be able to scrape up another $50 for Warren..

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Monday, 14 October 2019 18:00 (six years ago)

We're not going to beat Trump with pocket change, but we are going to beat Pete

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 October 2019 18:04 (six years ago)

how is he so bad at this

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 14 October 2019 18:23 (six years ago)

he's getting paid to be bad at this

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 October 2019 18:23 (six years ago)

is Warren being paid to utterly misrepresent the history of US wages under capitalism?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 October 2019 18:30 (six years ago)

Mayor Pete on Elizabeth Warren’s small donor strategy: “We're not going to beat Trump with pocket change”
he is so bad at this

― Simon H., Monday, October 14, 2019 12:47 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol, you could literally squeeze his entire donor base into the Waldorf Astoria ballroom. And he probably has a few times already.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 14 October 2019 20:00 (six years ago)

fwiw his small/big donor ratio is 50/50ish, which is basically equal to or better than all candidates except sanders (3rd most small donors), castro and yang (most small donors).

granted there are ways of cooking those numbers (e.g. one big donor can donate $100 27 times).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 October 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

Looks like Bernie is finally saying it out loud:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-draws-contrast-elizabeth-warren-capitalist-bones/story?id=66217140

blows with the wind donors (crüt), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:41 (six years ago)


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