US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

i’m no rose emoji mind genius but isn’t “rich and powerful people commit crimes and stonewall their way out of them while the poor and working class get locked up for a while over minor crimes” kind of a working class concern

i guess impeachment doesn’t involve saint bernard enough

sending you clap emojis with my mind, maura

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/464978-graham-tells-pelosi-gop-wont-impeach-trump-over-ukraine-call?#_=_

O ok Huckleberry

Graham, in an appearance on Fox News's "Fox & Friends," said that he was going to ask other Senate Republicans to sign a letter to Pelosi saying that they "do not believe the transcript of the phone call between the president and the Ukraine is an impeachable offense."

"They're about to destroy the nation for no good reason," Graham said. "And I want Nancy Pelosi to know that Republican senators are not going to impeach this president based on this transcript, so she can stop now before she destroys the country."

ooook. is trump's Live Under the Helicopter Blades performance where he doubled-down on Ukraine and then added China an impeachable offense? probably not, but the bootleg is sick

This is so pathetic.

"Don't tell the principal what my friend did - I already talked to them and they will not discipline him"

i listened to a radio segment on Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) this morning which was equal parts informative and depressing. slotkin is one of the group of freshmen reps who with military/intelligence background (slotkin is former CIA) who held off on supporting impeachment until the recent ukraine stuff.

there was a recording of one of her recent townhall meetings in michigan, and it was amazing to hear how as soon as she mentioned the fact that trump asked ukraine to investigate biden, the crowd started booing and yelling "fake!", "that's not true!", etc. it is depressing and surreal. these people are completely brainwashed...by the unstoppable combo of biggest fucking idiot in the history of the universe + incredibly flimsy pundit pushovers. it's embarrassing. and yet that's the reality.

it was unsettling because on one hand the affect of a segment like that is to cause sympathy for politicians like slotkin who have to deal with brainwashed no-nothings. i can see how she really has to walk a line and use careful language about impeachment or she'll lose the district.

but on the other hand, it also shows there's no way to have a "national conversation" on impeachment. you can't have a conversation with people who are so misinformed, who watch evening fox news and don't see it as a complete joke. after all this time, after so many blatant lies that someone with even a modicum of media literacy could see right through - they don't see any of it. it's just fucking pointless, they're lost, along with most of their families. it's really sad.

effect

pretty 'bad ass' of her to represent so many people with brain damage, when you think about it

man that gowdy head is something. i mean phrenology is a p bad look in 2019 but man when it comes to conservatives' heads...

isn’t “rich and powerful people commit crimes and stonewall their way out of them while the poor and working class get locked up for a while over minor crimes” kind of a working class concern

i see what ya did there (tho it took 2 hours to figure out "St Bernard")

perhaps not an IMMEDIATE working class concern, esp as no president is changing it

man that gowdy head is something. i mean phrenology is a p bad look in 2019 but man when it comes to conservatives' heads...

this is the pitch Quillette has been waiting for

powerful roger stone energy from gowdy for sure

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyR8lRrV4AErfgb.jpg

no wonder he covered his back with a richard nixon tattoo. anything, absolutely anything, to distract from the shape of the head

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1073821172905603072/0KzMnw9m.jpg

honestly between the pinheads and the weird overly-large amorphous Newt Gingrich-style heads this could prob be its own thread

I hope someday we're able to pass legislation wherein any elected official who employs bad faith hyperbolic rhetoric (like say 'destroying the country') to denounce another official for doing their job will receive one solid punch square in the throat. For each offense. From like whoever. Maybe we can appoint an official throat-puncher. There are some bugs to work out but I think it could dissuade at least some irresponsible behavior.

is it ok if politicians say that trump is destroying the country, though?

iirc entire time zones are currently exploding

honestly between the pinheads and the weird overly-large amorphous Newt Gingrich-style heads this could prob be its own thread

You could call it "talking heads."

Slotkin's my rep; the place where she got yelled at by crazies is in the gerrymandered-as-shit part that aims to negate the influence of the much more liberal area full of state employees and university people. That particular town is 97.94% white and full of serious white-flighters from the Detroit exurbs and is not far from the town most associated with the KKK in Michigan.

She won last year by 4 points in a district that had been held by a republican since 2001, so I'm not TOO worried about her.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/world/middleeast/turkey-attacks-syria.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

is this as fucked up as it sounds?

well, yeah

just a unilateral decision to let turkey invade syria? what possible benefit to the US could this have?

he is lying when he says that this means american troops are "going home" btw. at least according to this.

https://www.vox.com/world/2019/10/9/20906227/trump-turkey-invades-syria-middle-east-tweet

“The United States does not endorse this attack and has made it clear to Turkey that this operation is a bad idea,” Mr. Trump said in a statement released by the White House.

Noting that American soldiers had been moved from the area in advance, Mr. Trump limited his criticism of Turkey and made no mention of punitive action against it.

????

everyone knew this would happen as soon as he announced he was moving troops away from the area.

there is no benefit to the US. only to Russia.

Here's an interesting wrinkle. Not sure if this will stand up/work but

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/10/09/warning-pompeo-pocan-calls-suspending-salaries-trump-officials-holding-witnesses?cd-origin=rss

Okay, so you won't testify, provide evidence, or cooperate with congressional investigations?

okay. Power of the purse. No salary for you. Check the law, motherfucker.

Interesting if true

He's just helping out a fellow fascist, nothing to see here.

don't worry, he said that if turkey does anything that he considers "off limits", he will obliterate their economy. you might ask, since one of his underlings wrote that it was a "bad idea" on a statement that he signed off on, does this mean that what they're doing right NOW is off limits? and if not, what would be off limits? if they, amazingly, fail to keep track of the ISIS POWs, or if the invasion goes beyond the "buffer zone" in syria that turkey wants? and you might also ask if it's kind of odd that trump's stance is that if a putative NATO ally doesn't do what he vaguely wants, he will destroy their economy. but don't ask any of those questions, and don't worry about what will happen as a result of all this. "we'll see what happens"

xps

you almost got to hand it to Erdogan, he knew he could trick Trump into pulling US troops with a simple phone call and apparently was so confident that he had his tanks in motion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKp9e9fcMSY

I've just been informed that you do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to Erdogan

you almost got to hand it to Erdogan, he knew he could trick Trump into pulling US troops with a simple phone call and apparently was so confident that he had his tanks in motion

he knew that all he had to do was tell trump that he could blame it all on obama

This situation is deranged

Pomeo's GoFundMe is going to be peak 2019

Happening right now at the Trump Tower Hotel in Las Vegas.#KurdsBetrayedByTrump pic.twitter.com/QbZyOXkiNn

— Paul Lidicul (@PaulLidicul) October 9, 2019

Good. This is really, really fucked up. You don’t throw an ally to the wolves.

xp, or maybe erdogan just started the conversation with "so, Trump Tower Instanbul, it is beautiful! Very excellent and the best, many people here are saying"

This seems so much worse than asking for dirt on biden. He’s enabling imperial aggression.

Of a middle eastern despot. Against an ally.

It’s not about interventionism or not. The Kurdish people have *already* sacrificed a lot aiding us in our fight against ISIS.

xp evol j, beware of deepfakes

We all know your video wizardry.. why try to make people think it's real.

— I DONT THINK ITS OK! (@Ajrosner68) October 9, 2019

and the person who posted that video's response:

Whether that banner was physically or digitally put there is irrelevant - the statement is MADE, the public outrage is REAL and the message is spread.

If you're following me, I'd think you'd already understand that.

— Paul Lidicul (@PaulLidicul) October 9, 2019

lol what a dumbass

i know this isn't the thread but i don't think the world is prepared to be faked out as much as they're going to be faked out

Seems a little outside Greenpeace's scope

it definitely isn’t xp

#evoljbetrayedbytommyvietor