US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

its incredible that Republicans are so up in arms about Schiff supposedly "mischaracterizing" the Ukraine call - maybe they're just mad that a Democrat took a page out of their playbook for once

they are fucking idiots if they think he was acting as if it was actually said on the call "nice country you have here" and they are fucking idiots if they think people actually thought he was reading a quote. Is that what they're complaining about?

yes that is seriously why they are demanding his removal

the attack on Schifff by our standards, was so long ago, and it hasn't worked.

its incredible that Republicans are so up in arms about Schiff supposedly "mischaracterizing" the Ukraine call

Seems obvious to me that whatever the White House or Republicans say is an outrage, their real motive is stonewalling for as long as possible and foot dragging whenever stonewalling fails. It's like Trump changing his line of defense five times since the whistleblower complaint was revealed, they will always come up with another new reason not to cooperate and to withhold any witnesses or documents Congress subpoenas. They do this mainly because none of the testimony or documents will help them, either legally or politically, and everything can suppress from coming out in public is a clear win.

No, the Republicans dont want this to drag on - they want it over with asap given how the polls are moving

Lotsa lawyers

Confirmed, per a senior White House official, who says Trump has blessed the move. Trey Gowdy is on the Trump team. https://t.co/yjhaK8LsOF

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) October 8, 2019

No, the Republicans dont want this to drag on - they want it over with asap given how the polls are moving

Yeah, and for some reason President Spongebrain thinks that stonewalling will make it go away faster, rather than causing it to drag on for months. (I don't know if this opinion has become widespread yet, but he may not actually be very smart.)

No, the Republicans dont want this to drag on - they want it over with asap given how the polls are moving

But they don't want Schiff and the House committees to get all those documents or witnesses, either. They hope that if the path forward to concluding the investigative phase is strewn with delays, the House Democrats will just give up and impeach without much more investigation. They just want a quick, weak, limited bill of impeachment they can safely call "deeply troubling and saddening, but not rising to an impeachable offense", so they can vote with the president and not look quite so bad doing it.

They hope that if the path forward to concluding the investigative phase is strewn with delays, the House Democrats will just give up and impeach without much more investigation.

The ship has sailed.

Stay the course

ship has sailed

I'm not sure what you mean, Ned. The House has not yet drawn up any articles of impeachment against Trump. The investigative phase is still ongoing, and the WH strategy still seems to be stonewalling, for good or ill. So, whatever hopes the Republicans might harbor regarding that strategy's outcome, the hope I ascribed to them (that the investigations are concluded without the committees getting the documents or witnesses they subpoenaed) has not been proved ineffective, yet.

I think that's what Ned's saying.

Fernet and gin is my new thing.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:05 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Gross

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:19 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Add sweet vermouth and you've got a Hanky Panky.

Nothin' like a good spanky!

And that's what I mix, jaymc.

which is basically a negroni variant

Yep. A Negroni is any Amaro-based cocktail.

I mainly think Fernet is gross. Love a good Negroni, but I'm kind of a traditionalist on that front. Anyway, I thought you were just mixing Fernet and gin, with no sweetener.

I think that's what Ned's saying.

Quite.

This is ILX. The Democrats are always at fault.

over/under: how many Schumer T shirts does unperson own?

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If there are televised impeachment hearings and I have to be subjected to Trey Fucking Gowdy, I just may end it all.

The attack on Schiff is standard Trump straw-grabbing + "I know you are but what am I". I should be impeached for treason?? Pfft YOU should be impeached for treason! Booya your fav prez wins again

Trey Gowdy ugh

a lot of this is Trump trying to gaslight to confuse everyone

As per Arizona discussion upthread - my wife and I moved to Phoenix from Seattle last week and are very excited that, as Democratic Socialists, our votes will count for so much more than in Washington state.

if i have to look at trey gowdy's ratfuck face for the next few months can we please kickstart him an upper lip

thoughts and prayers for billy drago on dying and coming back to life this year pic.twitter.com/Kloz8q8nsU

— Lupus Haas (@Mobute) October 9, 2019

Welcome to AZ yelploaf! We need ya

what the fuck is that haircut

I think that has to be a shop. Unless he's spent the last six months on an unending meth binge.

wow mason verger looks great

Classic Gowdy

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good morning!

The Committee found that the IRA sought to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election by harming Hillary Clinton's chances of success and supporting Donald Trump

Ok, so now there's another IRA?

the GOP-controlled senate dropping that report yesterday is potentially a pretty big deal, or at least a warning to 2scoops to fly a little straighter

Over the last two weeks, Trump's average approval ratings have moved 2 points in the opposite direction on both sides.

the GOP-controlled senate dropping that report yesterday is potentially a pretty big deal, or at least a warning to 2scoops to fly a little straighter

― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, October 9, 2019

and his tax returns?

Poll: Half of voters support impeaching and removing Trump
A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll is the latest survey to show public backing for Congress' intensifying impeachment inquiryhttps://t.co/g94zD58mYv

— Greg Dworkin (@DemFromCT) October 9, 2019

keep going on TV Rudy

i wonder where they might be

xpost

i’m no rose emoji mind genius but isn’t “rich and powerful people commit crimes and stonewall their way out of them while the poor and working class get locked up for a while over minor crimes” kind of a working class concern

i guess impeachment doesn’t involve saint bernard enough

sending you clap emojis with my mind, maura

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/464978-graham-tells-pelosi-gop-wont-impeach-trump-over-ukraine-call?#_=_

O ok Huckleberry

Graham, in an appearance on Fox News's "Fox & Friends," said that he was going to ask other Senate Republicans to sign a letter to Pelosi saying that they "do not believe the transcript of the phone call between the president and the Ukraine is an impeachable offense."

"They're about to destroy the nation for no good reason," Graham said. "And I want Nancy Pelosi to know that Republican senators are not going to impeach this president based on this transcript, so she can stop now before she destroys the country."

ooook. is trump's Live Under the Helicopter Blades performance where he doubled-down on Ukraine and then added China an impeachable offense? probably not, but the bootleg is sick

This is so pathetic.

"Don't tell the principal what my friend did - I already talked to them and they will not discipline him"

i listened to a radio segment on Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) this morning which was equal parts informative and depressing. slotkin is one of the group of freshmen reps who with military/intelligence background (slotkin is former CIA) who held off on supporting impeachment until the recent ukraine stuff.

there was a recording of one of her recent townhall meetings in michigan, and it was amazing to hear how as soon as she mentioned the fact that trump asked ukraine to investigate biden, the crowd started booing and yelling "fake!", "that's not true!", etc. it is depressing and surreal. these people are completely brainwashed...by the unstoppable combo of biggest fucking idiot in the history of the universe + incredibly flimsy pundit pushovers. it's embarrassing. and yet that's the reality.

it was unsettling because on one hand the affect of a segment like that is to cause sympathy for politicians like slotkin who have to deal with brainwashed no-nothings. i can see how she really has to walk a line and use careful language about impeachment or she'll lose the district.

but on the other hand, it also shows there's no way to have a "national conversation" on impeachment. you can't have a conversation with people who are so misinformed, who watch evening fox news and don't see it as a complete joke. after all this time, after so many blatant lies that someone with even a modicum of media literacy could see right through - they don't see any of it. it's just fucking pointless, they're lost, along with most of their families. it's really sad.

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