US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

wrong type of boob

> pretty adamant that Arizona was purple

Kyrsten Sinema took her Senate oath of office on a copy of the Constitution, rather than the Bible. I believe they would lynch a red state senator for that...

Trey Gowdy is one of the outside lawyers the WH has reached out to. Really getting the best defense you can possibly find there.

Also, w/r/t their refusal to cooperate because it's illegitimate; not that I think the House ncessarily needs to heed the WH here, but why don't they just hold the vote and move forward? That will get rid of that excuse.

how is it possible that passing the bar exam is a difficult thing when complete morons like Trey Gowdy and Guiliani were able to do it

Arizona is frequently talked about as the likeliest red state (as in, a state that's been red for 20+ years) to move into the blue column in 2020.

Larry Sabato rates it as a toss-up, along with Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

[Also, w/r/t their refusal to cooperate because it's illegitimate; not that I think the House ncessarily needs to heed the WH here, but why don't they just hold the vote and move forward? That will get rid of that excuse.

I was wondering about this earlier, but assumed it was because Congress is still in recess

Also, w/r/t their refusal to cooperate because it's illegitimate; not that I think the House ncessarily needs to heed the WH here, but why don't they just hold the vote and move forward? That will get rid of that excuse.

Subtext: Republicans want a vote on impeachment or impeachment inquiry as soon as possible because poll numbers are moving away from Trump and they want to lock in a high-water vote total. Democrats want to wait because numbers are moving in their favor and want a higher # later.

— Jonathan Allen (@jonallendc) October 8, 2019

time to start arresting people

White House just sent eight-page scorching letter to Pelosi and Democrats saying they will not be cooperating with impeachment inquiry, attacking Schiff & calling inquiry a bid to overturn 2016 election, per copy seen by Post. Signed by chief White House counsel Pat Cipollone.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) October 8, 2019

xxp so they want Schiff removed from the committee? that won't happen

My man Chuck Todd dismissed the memo a few minutes. "They don't have a legal leg to stand on, it's just PR."

please tell me Chuck Todd isn't actually your man

My boy Chris Hayes will get jealous.

Chuck Todd seems to have stepped up a little lately

So if he wins in 2020, will he still be complaining about, cheering about, boasting about, investigating 2016?

anyway just to add to the "Dems are useless" chatter - if the WH can straight up say they're going to ignore Congress and the Dems do nothing then its straight up political malpractice

https://i.imgur.com/t2veQmd.png

what the fuck is this. why is it that everyone in Trump's orbit eventually adopts all his stupid speech patterns and broken logic. its like he's patent zero of some new brain virus

"the unprecedented step of providing the public transparency"

anyway just to add to the "Dems are useless" chatter - if the WH can straight up say they're going to ignore Congress and the Dems do nothing then its straight up political malpractice

― frogbs, Tuesday, October 8, 2019

How are the Dems at fault when (a) the White House keeps stepping into the same traps that Nixon did (b) teh House Dems can add obstruction of justice to the report (c) in the last 24 hours we've seen some cracks everywhere, from the most recent poll on impeachment to this bipartisan Senate report. Calm the fuck down and get a drink.

Time was you used to wait for Shaq to miss a free throw before you threw your beer at him

How are the Dems at fault when

This is ILX. The Democrats are always at fault. When they do something, it's the wrong thing, or they did it too late. When they don't do something, why won't they do the thing, which is the obvious thing?

Calm the fuck down and get a drink.

what do you recommend my dude

Fernet and gin is my new thing.

Gross

So what does the house do when they are told the WH won't cooperate? I'm sure there's like a Vox explainer for this, right?

did a double take

https://townendfarmshop.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/harrogate-tipple-gin-300x300.png

Add obstruction charges

Xp

So what does the house do when they are told the WH won't cooperate? I'm sure there's like a Vox explainer for this, right?

― DJI, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 6

It goes to federal court, dragging the delays into 2020.

Sit back, pop in your Joey Lawrence cassingles, and wait

Whoa!

The Committee found that the IRA sought to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election by harming Hillary Clinton's chances of success and supporting Donald Trump at the direction of the Kremlin. The Committee found that the IRA targeted not only Hillary Clinton, but also Republican candidates during the presidential primaries. For example, Senators Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were targeted and denigrated, as was Jeb Bush.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume2.pdf

its incredible that Republicans are so up in arms about Schiff supposedly "mischaracterizing" the Ukraine call - maybe they're just mad that a Democrat took a page out of their playbook for once

they are fucking idiots if they think he was acting as if it was actually said on the call "nice country you have here" and they are fucking idiots if they think people actually thought he was reading a quote. Is that what they're complaining about?

yes that is seriously why they are demanding his removal

the attack on Schifff by our standards, was so long ago, and it hasn't worked.

its incredible that Republicans are so up in arms about Schiff supposedly "mischaracterizing" the Ukraine call

Seems obvious to me that whatever the White House or Republicans say is an outrage, their real motive is stonewalling for as long as possible and foot dragging whenever stonewalling fails. It's like Trump changing his line of defense five times since the whistleblower complaint was revealed, they will always come up with another new reason not to cooperate and to withhold any witnesses or documents Congress subpoenas. They do this mainly because none of the testimony or documents will help them, either legally or politically, and everything can suppress from coming out in public is a clear win.

No, the Republicans dont want this to drag on - they want it over with asap given how the polls are moving

Lotsa lawyers

Confirmed, per a senior White House official, who says Trump has blessed the move. Trey Gowdy is on the Trump team. https://t.co/yjhaK8LsOF

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) October 8, 2019

No, the Republicans dont want this to drag on - they want it over with asap given how the polls are moving

Yeah, and for some reason President Spongebrain thinks that stonewalling will make it go away faster, rather than causing it to drag on for months. (I don't know if this opinion has become widespread yet, but he may not actually be very smart.)

No, the Republicans dont want this to drag on - they want it over with asap given how the polls are moving

But they don't want Schiff and the House committees to get all those documents or witnesses, either. They hope that if the path forward to concluding the investigative phase is strewn with delays, the House Democrats will just give up and impeach without much more investigation. They just want a quick, weak, limited bill of impeachment they can safely call "deeply troubling and saddening, but not rising to an impeachable offense", so they can vote with the president and not look quite so bad doing it.

They hope that if the path forward to concluding the investigative phase is strewn with delays, the House Democrats will just give up and impeach without much more investigation.

The ship has sailed.

Stay the course

ship has sailed

I'm not sure what you mean, Ned. The House has not yet drawn up any articles of impeachment against Trump. The investigative phase is still ongoing, and the WH strategy still seems to be stonewalling, for good or ill. So, whatever hopes the Republicans might harbor regarding that strategy's outcome, the hope I ascribed to them (that the investigations are concluded without the committees getting the documents or witnesses they subpoenaed) has not been proved ineffective, yet.

I think that's what Ned's saying.

Fernet and gin is my new thing.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:05 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Gross

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:19 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Add sweet vermouth and you've got a Hanky Panky.

Nothin' like a good spanky!

And that's what I mix, jaymc.

which is basically a negroni variant

Yep. A Negroni is any Amaro-based cocktail.

I mainly think Fernet is gross. Love a good Negroni, but I'm kind of a traditionalist on that front. Anyway, I thought you were just mixing Fernet and gin, with no sweetener.

I think that's what Ned's saying.

Quite.