US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

"Wow, O.K." better be next month's thread title

the only good thing about this administration is the promise of ever better thread titles every day

we should be having daily threads to capture them all

They don't care about the racism (in fact, they love it)

they don't like racism
oh no
they love it

The Washington Post reports:

Rudy Giuliani said Tuesday that he would not testify in front of the House Intelligence Committee and that he “can’t imagine” that anyone from the Trump administration would appear before the panel led by Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) either.

“The position I’m stating is now the position of the administration,” Giuliani said in an interview in which he revealed that the administration has written a letter that will be released soon saying that Schiff’s committee is illegitimate.

“I wouldn’t testify in front of that committee until there is a vote of Congress and he [Schiff] is removed,” Giuliani said, referring to Republican calls for a full House vote on an impeachment inquiry and the removal of Schiff as the committee’s chairman.

We are seeing the way injustice unfolds in the streets and in our homes, as people like Botham Jean are shot in their own apartments by the police. Despite a conviction, the light sentence in comparison to the much longer terms typically given to Black and brown people evidences what little value this country’s “justice” system places on people of color. As water protectors face 110 years in prison for protecting Indigenous rights, we remain resolute in our conviction that this police and prison system has no place in a socialist future.

We do not believe that the mere impeachment of Trump will address these injustices. It will not improve the lives of millions of working class people who make enormous sacrifices just to make ends meet. Though this fight was started by “the squad,” as Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib have come to be known, their calls for impeachment had long been ignored by the political elite until one of their own was targeted by the Trump administration’s agenda. As such, we don’t believe the impeachment process will do anything to bring working class people into the political process.

Only people powered movements can do that, and we believe change is coming.

https://www.dsausa.org/statements/dsa-national-political-committee-npc-statement-on-impeachment/

*golf clap*

That's nice, children. Run back and play in your room.

As such, we don’t believe the impeachment process will do anything to bring working class people into the political process.

...you don't say?

The DSA should stick to chapter-by-chapter efforts to fix local problems and build their organization that way. Opining on national issues when they have no national power base is ridiculous and makes them look like assholes. Go win some school board elections.

suck on it

We know that both Nancy Pelosi and Trump are a part of this ruling elite. Though they might find themselves at odds now, in the end they will both be against the demands of the working class and any platform that unites them.

bravely standing idly by

Morbs COINTELPRO Bot 2000(TM)

violating the norms of traditional diplomacy, who coulda guessed

The New York Times reports:

A White House official who listened to President Trump’s July phone call with Ukraine’s leader described it as “crazy,” “frightening,” and “completely lacking in substance related to national security,” according to a memo written by the whistle-blower at the center of the Ukraine scandal, a C.I.A. officer who spoke to the White House official.

The White House official was “visibly shaken by what had transpired,” the C.I.A. officer wrote in his memo, one day after Mr. Trump pressured President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine in a July 25 phone call to open investigations that would benefit him politically.

A palpable sense of concern had already taken hold among at least some in the White House that the call had veered well outside the bounds of traditional diplomacy, the officer wrote.

oh NO has this strong leader veered OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS of traditional DIPLOMACY?? *faints*

Thanks to you jerks I now have both "No Diggity" and "Dreadlock Holiday" stuck in my head.

Tbf they deployed boobs to keep the audience engaged

Lol wrong thread

Or is it?

wrong type of boob

> pretty adamant that Arizona was purple

Kyrsten Sinema took her Senate oath of office on a copy of the Constitution, rather than the Bible. I believe they would lynch a red state senator for that...

Trey Gowdy is one of the outside lawyers the WH has reached out to. Really getting the best defense you can possibly find there.

Also, w/r/t their refusal to cooperate because it's illegitimate; not that I think the House ncessarily needs to heed the WH here, but why don't they just hold the vote and move forward? That will get rid of that excuse.

how is it possible that passing the bar exam is a difficult thing when complete morons like Trey Gowdy and Guiliani were able to do it

Arizona is frequently talked about as the likeliest red state (as in, a state that's been red for 20+ years) to move into the blue column in 2020.

Larry Sabato rates it as a toss-up, along with Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

[Also, w/r/t their refusal to cooperate because it's illegitimate; not that I think the House ncessarily needs to heed the WH here, but why don't they just hold the vote and move forward? That will get rid of that excuse.

I was wondering about this earlier, but assumed it was because Congress is still in recess

Also, w/r/t their refusal to cooperate because it's illegitimate; not that I think the House ncessarily needs to heed the WH here, but why don't they just hold the vote and move forward? That will get rid of that excuse.

Subtext: Republicans want a vote on impeachment or impeachment inquiry as soon as possible because poll numbers are moving away from Trump and they want to lock in a high-water vote total. Democrats want to wait because numbers are moving in their favor and want a higher # later.

— Jonathan Allen (@jonallendc) October 8, 2019

time to start arresting people

White House just sent eight-page scorching letter to Pelosi and Democrats saying they will not be cooperating with impeachment inquiry, attacking Schiff & calling inquiry a bid to overturn 2016 election, per copy seen by Post. Signed by chief White House counsel Pat Cipollone.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) October 8, 2019

xxp so they want Schiff removed from the committee? that won't happen

My man Chuck Todd dismissed the memo a few minutes. "They don't have a legal leg to stand on, it's just PR."

please tell me Chuck Todd isn't actually your man

My boy Chris Hayes will get jealous.

Chuck Todd seems to have stepped up a little lately

So if he wins in 2020, will he still be complaining about, cheering about, boasting about, investigating 2016?

anyway just to add to the "Dems are useless" chatter - if the WH can straight up say they're going to ignore Congress and the Dems do nothing then its straight up political malpractice

https://i.imgur.com/t2veQmd.png

what the fuck is this. why is it that everyone in Trump's orbit eventually adopts all his stupid speech patterns and broken logic. its like he's patent zero of some new brain virus

"the unprecedented step of providing the public transparency"

anyway just to add to the "Dems are useless" chatter - if the WH can straight up say they're going to ignore Congress and the Dems do nothing then its straight up political malpractice

― frogbs, Tuesday, October 8, 2019

How are the Dems at fault when (a) the White House keeps stepping into the same traps that Nixon did (b) teh House Dems can add obstruction of justice to the report (c) in the last 24 hours we've seen some cracks everywhere, from the most recent poll on impeachment to this bipartisan Senate report. Calm the fuck down and get a drink.

Time was you used to wait for Shaq to miss a free throw before you threw your beer at him

How are the Dems at fault when

This is ILX. The Democrats are always at fault. When they do something, it's the wrong thing, or they did it too late. When they don't do something, why won't they do the thing, which is the obvious thing?

Calm the fuck down and get a drink.

what do you recommend my dude

Fernet and gin is my new thing.

Gross

So what does the house do when they are told the WH won't cooperate? I'm sure there's like a Vox explainer for this, right?

did a double take

https://townendfarmshop.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/harrogate-tipple-gin-300x300.png

Add obstruction charges

Xp

So what does the house do when they are told the WH won't cooperate? I'm sure there's like a Vox explainer for this, right?

― DJI, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 6

It goes to federal court, dragging the delays into 2020.

Sit back, pop in your Joey Lawrence cassingles, and wait

Whoa!

The Committee found that the IRA sought to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election by harming Hillary Clinton's chances of success and supporting Donald Trump at the direction of the Kremlin. The Committee found that the IRA targeted not only Hillary Clinton, but also Republican candidates during the presidential primaries. For example, Senators Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were targeted and denigrated, as was Jeb Bush.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume2.pdf

its incredible that Republicans are so up in arms about Schiff supposedly "mischaracterizing" the Ukraine call - maybe they're just mad that a Democrat took a page out of their playbook for once

they are fucking idiots if they think he was acting as if it was actually said on the call "nice country you have here" and they are fucking idiots if they think people actually thought he was reading a quote. Is that what they're complaining about?

yes that is seriously why they are demanding his removal