PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Collusion with a fascist foreign power, Brexiteers love to see it

Was about to say, that wouldn't bother a Tory.

Orbán just loves his country, you know?

what's in it for orban tho? he can't get any kind of a special trade deal with the UK bcz being in the EU doesn't allow this -- and he can piss off his EU neighbours who he actually he to carry on working with?

(the great cross-europe bannonite awakening has really not developed to its own advantage to date)

There is no law against collusion with a foreign power, etc.

It would be an incredibly high risk strategy for Orban though, both in terms of his position with the rest of the Visehrad group and burning bridges with the EU26.

xps

Baldrickian.

Is Orban going to publicly state he will veto? Because it seems like a bad idea for planning-purposes to create a scenario where UK is thrown into Brexit-without warning anyone.

alternative reality where hungary boris is the follow up to boris goes scheming

a+

lol!

Fine work

Yeah why would Orban stick his neck out other than in a vague Nazis-gotta-stick-together way?

The EU vetoing a parliament-ordered extension because of Hungary seems like one thing that would make a GNU with orders to revoke A50 more likely than not

Alternatively does "give us an extension you garlic-smelling cunts" count as a request compatible with the law?

― Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 13:10 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

tbh, one of the major flaws of the benn act is that its seemingly inherently contemptuous of the eu. the text is pretty dismissive and the intent is largely to relegate the european project to an effect of uk internal political strife. this, to me, seems a pretty bad idea. In addition, it doesn't contain afaik any convincing reason *why* the eu27 should grant an extension, it includes no bargaining chip such as calling a general election etc that might conceivably relieve the blockages caused by deadlocked parliament etc. By all rights, the EU sortof *should* reject the Boris request as it is not in good faith even if he does it with a smile.

I mean i'd rather they didn't but it does seem that the eu's position was little considered by the architects of the benn act which, to me, seems very much cut from the same arrogant and contemptuous cloth as much of the brexiteer posturing with respect to the expectation that other countries are just there to do the uk's bidding

I suspect that the eu27 will accept another extension but its not really under ideal circumstances and i think it really reveals a gap in the remainer spirit with respect to the value they attach to the eu

As such, you're right (and the impossibility of some of the press framing this is any other terms than "can this deal pass the HoC?" is grating), but considering that a lot of the EU will have seen Corbyn visibly hovering his hand over the VONC button, it's not like they'll think that this extension will return exactly the same result in six months or whatever.

Also these extensions are burning future-relationship negotiation time, which is to the EU's advantage if we ever get past WA stage.

Wow, Arcuri's good value: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-pal-claims-men-20399064

Am I right in thinking it's a bit more complicated than 'every EU country has a veto'?

Seems legit.

“I had the best f***ing flat in East London. The reason why Boris would stopover was because of the clusterf*** of emails.
“And he was like, ‘Jen, what the f***’s a Google hangout? Where are you at three o’clock, I can, you know, stop over.

Because, obviously, as Mayor of London, he had no-one else to ask.

“I don’t like boozers. I’m a pret a manger xunt” - rory on channel 4 news

Am I right in thinking it's a bit more complicated than 'every EU country has a veto'?

― Matt DC, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:20 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

can only report on all ive seen and this does appear to be the case tbh

"i spend my time going to pret a manger" -- rory speaks to the voters* with this one

*me

protip: keep your Pret loyalty card neatly stashed in the grosgrain ribbon of your gold top hat:p

they have a loyalty card??!

They do them in Pret A Mangy

Proof if ever you needed. It’s a bad idea for Corbyn to stand down for any temporary period. https://t.co/7TfpJUI72m

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) October 5, 2019

absolute nightmare fuel

what have we done to reserve john rentoul

I voted Labour in '97, could be that

he's no Ray Reardon

amazing ian blackford burn tho

where's jess phillips? her inclusion too on the nose?

even her melt cheerleaders have a finite amount of patience for such a self-promoting irritating as fuck knobhead

although jess might say it is pure class war!

i don't think anyone* now sees her as more than a gadfly backbencher with eyes on a media career

*even rentoul, dim as he is

my local MP Paula Sherriff made Jess look like the pretender she is recently. And she is no Corbyn fan, but initially accepted a minor position in his shadow cabinet and then couldn't arsed with the infighting from both sides and turned it down to concentrate on her constituency duties - especially as UC was being rolled out there at the time. She's pals with Liz Kendall but hasn't ever got involved in intrigues or publicly undermining the leadership as far as I can recall.

And I imagine she has never threatened to stab Jeremy Corbyn?

Don’t think she’d make up stories about telling Diane Abbott to FO either.

BREAKING. John McDonnell tells me that “we’ll NEVER accept an interim government without Jeremy Corbyn as PM.”

Not even if a government led by a “impartial”/bipartisan PM was the only way to stop No Deal?
“No, cause it wouldn’t work and it won’t have the support of Labour MPs.”

— Antonello Guerrera (@antoguerrera) October 5, 2019

McD otm these are the important stats:

[Boris Johnson]
297 (Tories and DUP)

[Jeremy Corbyn]
284 (Lab, SNP, PC, Grn)

[some jumped up melt/nice tory/blairite detritus]
44 (LDs, TIG, Tory rebels)

what kind of maniac becomes an mp and aspires to be ‘impartial’

john artial

Brendan O' Neill on the moral maze tonight, it's already bad but jesus wept - it makes me feel like watching the Joker movie.

that's going too far, but maybe a torrented Korean HC subs HD rip of It Chapter 2

The cabinet of national unity in full pic.twitter.com/Px1wRDbslg

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) October 5, 2019

Visceral hatred. I love it. pic.twitter.com/gET9CCNAeg

— Scott Rogers (@scottr0gers) October 6, 2019

u loves to see it

love that that anger could be about literally any aspect of his life or career