2020 Democratic presidential primary

I don't think "due to demographic realities, they're going to destroy themselves unless they choose a more conciliatory path" has the same semantic meaning as "due to demographic realities, they must subjugate the encroaching demographics before they are subsumed" even though they start with the same phrase.

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:53 (seventeen minutes ago) link

Like, Warren is literally saying that Israel's survival is incumbent upon treating Palestine as fully-fledged good faith partner, yet somehow this is being painted as if she is saying the most important thing is for Israel to grind the heels of its boots against Palestine's neck, but the person who gets it right is the same person who 3 years ago couldn't distinguish between "issues that affect black people" and "issues that affect poor people".

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:57 (thirteen minutes ago) link

Yes, this is exactly OTM. And also these particular demographic issues are discussed REGULARLY and OPENLY in Palestinian media and literature as well as Israeli media and literature of all stripes. She clearly meant "there is some leverage to force israel into a solution because they know that eventually the political power of Arabs in Israel will increase." And all of this has a very different meaning in a state that is founded, for better or worse, on the pretense of being a "Jewish state" than in the U.S. which at least has pretensions of being a state for all people.

lol @ Harris pickin a fight with Twitter

― Οὖτις, Thursday, October 3, 2019 5:25 AM (forty-two minutes ago)

She wants attention.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 3, 2019 5:27 AM (forty minutes ago)

it's a good thing for a candidate to get attention by picking quixotic fights about serious issues, even if it's extremely bad and stupid that this is an issue in 2019

I don't think "due to demographic realities, they're going to destroy themselves unless they choose a more conciliatory path" has the same semantic meaning as "due to demographic realities, they must subjugate the encroaching demographics before they are subsumed" even though they start with the same phrase.

otm

Warren's mediocre on Israel, but I'd like to see the evidence that Bernie is any better. He appears to be mealy mouthed in the same ways.

Who cares about Israel? The obsession needs to end seriously. I swear I’ve heard more about Israel from the whole US political spectrum than Puerto Rico.

In the past year, I mean.

lol...

well it's where Armageddon is gonna start if the waters don't get us first

Could he do more in pointing out their war crimes? yes. but the fact that Bernie as the most high profile American Jewish politician ever has been openly critical of israel and has endorsed the possibility of leveraging US aid toward a just solution with the Palestinians is a very big deal. its an unprecedented position for a serious democrat presidential candidate to take.

I'm in the Bernie camp. but one place where I feel Warren is far stronger is on the filibuster (and I'm somewhat surprised there's not been much mention of that in the back and forth between the two here, as it seems a pretty substantive issue to say the least). Wall St regulation too, but the filibuster is one where she has the strongest advantage for me

their diff approaches are deep in the procedural weeds, there have been posts about it

The main difference is that Warren would like to eliminate the filibuster, which can only happen by adopting the appropriate Senate Rules at the start of the session, while Bernie's approach is based on the parliamentary power of the VP as presiding officer of the Senate. Both approaches presume a Senate Democratic majority, or at least a 50-50 split.

"who cares about Israel?"

wtf

It's not a binary obv, but he has a point about Puerto Rico, about which I can stand to hear much, much more.

Well funnily enough Bernie’s the best candidate on that issue too.

https://theintercept.com/2019/09/24/puerto-rico-austerity-congress/

The President doesn’t change Senate rules afaict
And I doubt Schumer is going to take direction from Warren or Sanders

Well that’s right probably right
, it’s really above my level of understanding to try and figure out what’s possible by executive action vs what’s possible now or what may be possible in future congresses.

What’s important here though imo is that he and AOC are correctly calling out the unelected promesa for instituting crippling austerity measures at the expense of the Puerto Rican people while continuing to fully reimburse predatory investors.

Warren is a co signer btw.

Oh I see you were talking about the filibuster nvm

And I doubt Schumer is going to take direction from Warren or Sanders

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:51 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think he will, tbh, cause he's a feckless dweeb who blows with the wind.

he's a feckless dweeb who blows with the wind donors.

he's a feckless dweeb who blows with the wind donors.

Bernie as the most high profile American Jewish politician ever

Joe Lieberman just texted me to say that this hurt his feelings

Joe's a shmendrick who will just be remembered if at all for killing the public option. Bernies a mensch.

Hindert hayzer zol er hobn, in yeder hoyz a hindert tsimern, in yeder tsimer tsvonsik betn un kadukhes zol im varfn fin eyn bet in der tsveyter.
A hundred houses shall he have, in every house a hundred rooms and in every room twenty beds, and a delirious fever should drive him from bed to bed.

i just the looked that up to pretend that my dad actually taught me any yiddish....

Oyf doktoyrim zol er dos avekgebn.
He should give it all away to doctors.

there thats even better.

for pure surreal imagery this is pretty good

A hiltsener tsung zol er bakumn.
He should grow a wooden tongue.

Have you forgotten Joementum?

Wohl is back

Congrats to Elizabeth Warren on rising so quickly in the polls she forced Jacob Wohl to write erotica about her. pic.twitter.com/w73YkrEbu2

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) October 3, 2019

shocking the conscious of the nation!

NARRATOR: 'The charges did not shock the conscious of the nation"

Shocked my conscious!

Zzzzzzzzzzzz.....

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i guess this random house is a step up from wohl's previous venue (a holiday inn? right?)

o shit warren fucked marine todd?!?

It's Jack Burkman's house xpost. I hope he disinfected beforehand.

checks your zippers, men

this thread, wow

Blundering pro-Trump smear artists Jack Burkman and Jacob Wohl are at it again today with another press conference in Burkman’s driveway. As always: these guys love to lie and Jacob is facing a felony charge. I’ll be tweeting sparingly if at all. pic.twitter.com/DY99KgEVsF

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 3, 2019

omg why no video?

there is video. and bad tattoos. i can't believe he wore shorts.

Would you eat a doughnut served by Jack Burkman?

The supposed “sex scar” from Jacob Wohl’s accuser is just from a chain from a swingset. Asked about this, the accuser just shrugged. https://t.co/vE0jqtzPGi

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 3, 2019

heh

Is this guy Xander Cage?

*God🙏
*6'3" 24 225lbs 6% BF

"Senator Warren has also told me that she has a 37 year old daughter named Lisa that was the product of a one-night stand... she has always kept this daughter from public view"

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR61p3Jk1v0bhS-j2LvrI_ysEUKVoaj_a92sthdgfqSajK3jE7Y

Anti-Bernie conspiracy to make Warren look cooler.

Yet another California poll (PPIC), & this one is tight tight tight: Warren 23%, Biden 22%, Sanders 21%. https://t.co/D2mfWwcynU

— Taniel (@Taniel) October 3, 2019

Elizabeth Warren will whip the oligarchs and corrupt politicians into shape. She'll dominate those who want to corrupt America and chain those who who hope to hurt the country to the wall. America needs a firm hand and Elizabeth has a plan for that. pic.twitter.com/4lWZnw9cUZ

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) October 3, 2019

Making fun of Wohl's slander also helps to spread it.

Anyone who’d buy into this wouldn’t vote for Warren in a million years.

Jacob Wohl asked the crowd if they have any questions and a guy asked, “Do you realize the idea that Elizabeth Warren fucks really slaps?”

— BenDavid Grabinski (@bdgrabinski) October 3, 2019

as aimless suggests, the real intention is that about a year from now, when a ton of life has happened and most people have forgotten about this incident, some people will remember that they heard something bad about elizabeth warren having a secret child but won't remember where they heard it, but that it was definitely from a good source because they only follow trusted news sources

those people already have irreversible brain damage.