US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

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Oh, a GYME!

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

my trump wants to potty all the gyme, potty all the gyme, potty all the gyyyyme

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

Thread idea: words you would bet $100 actual cash that donald trump does not know

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

I think he meant to write Moot' with a hyphen

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

i would bet $150 donald trump could not accurately use the word "anti-luddite" in a sentence if given thirty (30) seconds and no help

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

i would bet $150 donald trump could not accurately use a computer of any type or vintage if given thirty (30) seconds and no help

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

what kind of supposedly rich person doesn't know what a moat is?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

if a moot is big enough you can floot a boot in it

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

just saw a clip of Obama joking in 2011 that the republicans might want a border moat with alligators, it's probably where he got the idea

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

Seriously, one of the biggest missed journalistic opportunities is just a simple 'Mr. President, could you please define ____?' or 'Mr. President, could you please explain _____?'. Where the blank is something very rudimentary, something most fourth graders could at least kinda fumble their way through. I don't pretend at this point that it would make a whole helluva lot of difference electorally but it would be nice to know exactly where his baseline of ignorance lies.

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

there is no baseline

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

I'm willing to bet he doesn't know offhand what year the Declaration of Independence was signed, for example. Now, you might feel compelled to pooh-pooh that as preposterous, but I'd beg you to take a moment and consider the assertion based on everything we know about the 'man'.

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

Of course I would love that as theater but can't see it moving the needle much. Everyone knew who he was, and wasn't, years ago.

Gotcha tactics with Herman Cain - remember Bekkistan? - became meme fodder but didn't accomplish anything other than what normal electoral gravity did.

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

this "does DT know _______ or can DT do ___" is one of the rolling thought experiments on the deadspin podcast.

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

I wonder how many presidents he could name...presumably Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, the Bushes, Obama, Nixon, Clinton, probably Kennedy, maybe Carter, Ford, FDR, Eisenhower, Truman but I'm not 100%...oh i guess Andrew Jackson. I think the over/under is 10.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

he would 100% say ben franklin was a president

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

I'm certain he couldn't name just the presidents who served while he's been alive. Not all of them.

These are not assumptions I'd feel safe making about any other living person, no matter how maddeningly ignorant and incurious they were.

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

there have been times where I've been like, "okay, he doesn't LITERALLY think the F-35 is invisible" or "he doesn't ACTUALLY think Hillary destroyed her emails with bleach" but it would appear that he indeed appears to believe both of those things

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

Yeah, he just made reference to the 'acid washed' jeans emails within the past week. It's not an arrangement of words employed by someone who understands words.

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

i don't think he really understands what that scandal is about, just that it worked for him to keep mentioning "emails."

likewise, i don't think he knows what he wanted ukraine to uncover about biden. he just wanted to create the appearance of impropriety but subjecting biden to an investigation.

treeship., Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

Talked about this in the August thread too

his supporters don't care that he lies all the time and they love the fact that he's an unrepentant racist, but they do seem to have trouble defending how lazy/obviously dumb the guy is, choosing to always deflect to the time Obama said "57 states" or whatever. I keep hoping some interviewer or debate moderator is gonna nail him by just asking him to explain something any middle schooler would know but they haven't really done that yet. Actually they kinda did a bit in 2015 but the other GOP candidates would step in to take a bullet for him

― frogbs, Monday, August 19, 2019 2:23 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I fantasized about that happening in the last election. However, if this happened he would just trail off into some rant that has nothing to do with the question.

Hypothetically, the only way to get him on it is to give him misleading "clues" that will cause him to BS around what information he thinks you're giving him rather than what he's actually supposed to know. Helps if you appeal to his lingo and the way he compartmentalizes things.

"Can you name all of the branches of government that you believe are doing the best jobs, and all of the ones that could be working even harder? What does each one do and what could they be doing? What could their top leaders be doing better? Many people are saying there are too many. How many are there?"

Something like that.

Evan, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

what a shit show of a presser with the Finnish President right now

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

A Finnish reporter just asked President Sauli Niinistö of Finland what favors President Trump has asked of him.

There were audible gasps in the room.

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) October 2, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

I think a real approach they could take is when he says "lots of people are saying x", asking who specifically and can he provide examples.

Or for claims about Schiff or whoever committing treason, asking what law is being broken by them.

xp

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

almost as awkward as when selina meyer presented the prime minister of finland with an angry birds clock!

xp

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

Just put him on the spot any time he makes a wild claim

xp

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

the last reporter Reuters reporter was killing it

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

the last reporter Reuters reporter was killing it

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

lol ugh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

Question: "Finland is the happiest country in the world--"

President Trump: "Finland is a happy country."

Question: "--what can you learn from Finland?"

Trump: "Well, you got rid of Pelosi and you got rid of shifty Schiff. Finland is a happy country, he's a happy leader too." pic.twitter.com/malb47H2MW

— The Hill (@thehill) October 2, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

love how he recoils when trump touches him

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

I mean...what the absolute and total motherfuck?

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

Trump berates @jeffmason1 after Mason presses him to actually answer the question he asked (he never does). The Finnish president can't help but chuckle at the shit show. pic.twitter.com/Uc6G4HvE7r

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 2, 2019

hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

the whole thing was insane even by his shitty standards

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

When Trump smiles or laughs it's like catching a glimpse into Satan encased in ice.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

DON'T BE RUDE

jmm, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

my theory is that trump actually knows nothing, his enormous brain merely absorbs and immediately regurgitates whatever's in front of him at any moment

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

that's not fair to satan xxp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

love asking Trump about happiness when he's barely containing his rage

jmm, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

the correct gotcha question is to ask him to explain the difference between medicare and medicaid.

it won't make any difference, but that's the best one imo.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

I think I linked to this before, but it's good:

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/this-guy-truly-has-no-idea-what-hes-talking-about-1838500602

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

This sounds promising, he's independent of Pompeo and is volunteering info to Congress. Of course who knows what he has (possibly nothing)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/02/ig-giving-an-urgent-briefing-hill-called-out-politicization-harassment-state-this-summer/

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

yes, i'm trying to be cautiously optimistic about it. how long have they been meeting, now? keep waiting for the news to break

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

@Shakey/Karl:

I posted this last night (an eternity on this thread... but yet):
__________________________________________________________________

So which Steve Linick will show up tomorrow?

The unprofessional, flighty, politically vindictive one...

State Department Inspector General Steve Linick during the financial crisis targeted a whistleblower friend of mine, a whistleblower who is one of the most honorable men I know. From what I understand Linick is unprofessional, blows with the wind, and is politically vindictive.
— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) October 2, 2019

or the smart, honest, serious one:

I worked with Steve Linick, the State Department’s IG who has requested an urgent briefing with Congress, in the 1990s at the USAO. Smart, honest, and not a guy to mess with.
— MoatSnakeHat (@Popehat) October 1, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

I think I linked to this before, but it's good:

every Big Wet President piece by Roth is good, but this one is top three to date.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

Manu Raju
@mkraju

"Lotta head scratching out of the IG briefing on the Hill, which the State IG conveyed was “urgent.” Raskin showed us a 40-page packet of what he describes as conspiracy theories and propaganda about Ukraine/Biden/ targeting former ambassador Yovanavitch."

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

Single polls are almost meaningless

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

rmde

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

yeah lol his aggregate polling is garbage - 538's tracker (possibly the only semi-useful thing left on the site) has him at 41.5% approval, 53.7% disapproval

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link


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