2020 Democratic presidential primary

yeah I think we can all come together to say "fuck off pete" to that

lol

no one sent Pete the ilx animation poll?

What about binging? What are you binging on TV?

Not a lot of time for binging but I'll catch a TV show before bed sometimes. Usually Family Guy or Rick and Morty is on as I’m drifting off. I'm trying to get into Succession but I’m struggling. I need a character to root for and I haven't decided if any of them are good people.

none of them are good people, Pete. And neither are you.

buttigieg is a shithead lol

peak pete

It was honestly puzzling me why people were so down on Moulton yet so high on Buttigieg when they're kind of the same?

Moulton is gay?

idk he looks pretty miserable

Buttigieg was a fascinating anomaly for about two weeks

I don't quite know which thread to put this on - Krystal Ball w Katie Halper and Matt Taibbi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZNr9YM-gy0

interview starts at 26m, she's good generally anyway I think, but is more succinct here

I feel like one thing very politically active people are often blind to is that lots and lots of lots of voters sincerely hate what they see as "fighting" or "divisiveness." On the other hand, robust progressive policy changes are broadly popular in general and really popular with Democrats. So Buttigieg is in my view doing something reasonably smart here: he's saying, "I'm the guy who unlike Joe Biden is actually devoted to making thoroughgoing progressive policy changes, but who unlike Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders I'm going to do it in a nice-guy Indiana way and not in a fighty and divisive way." Now he is of course not being truthful when he says he can do this! An actual President Buttigieg would immediately be cast as a bomb-throwing Marxist and half the country would see him as "divisive". In fact, I think Warren has as much of an ability to promise that as he does. But I can't say it's a dumb thing to promise. It's what Tony Evers ran on in Wisconsin, and he won, and to be honest he seems to actually be carrying it off here.

i think it's weaselly

xpost I see no one brings up Krystal Ball's scam PAC in that podcast.

they didn't bring up Jimmy Dore's Assad prize in the episode before that
what's up with all the left wing grifters these days

That Onion Headline from 2013
Report: 250 Million Americans Still Need Guests On Their Podcasts This Week

#notallsiliconvalleyassholes

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/01/silicon-valley-ready-to-back-elizabeth-warren-despite-tech-break-up-plan.html

The hatred for Buttigieg escapes me, at his worst he seems rather harmless and he polls below 10%.

"Harmless" reads as "harmful", when your own position is that there are quite a few targets out there which must be harmed in order to accomplish anything good.

i know he's dwarfed by the Orange Blob, but Booty's disregard for people's intelligence is annoying.

I work at a company that Warren wants to break up and I’m going to vote for her.

The hatred for Buttigieg escapes me, at his worst he seems rather harmless and he polls below 10%.

― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:09 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't really hate him so much as I hate the phenomenon -- narcissistic urban liberals voting for their reflection basically

I can't imagine a better endorsement of Warren for Sanders voters than these recent attacks from Silicon Valley and Wall Street

if Bernie wins NH he'll get more of those

"Harmless" reads as "harmful", when your own position is that there are quite a few targets out there which must be harmed in order to accomplish anything good.

― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, October 1, 2019 4:18 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Like what specifically? Maybe I missed some stuff

We've just been talking about billionaires, Wall Street tycoons, Facebook and Google getting up in arms about the harm that would be done if they were more closely regulated and new taxes imposed on them. They'll do as specific targets, for starters.

I don’t see Buttigieg as being particularly being pro-big business, but perhaps once again I’m missing some statements or policy plans.

also bad at keeping his police dept from murdering brown people

uh VHS, he sucked at this teat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKinsey_%26_Company

truly the most vapid of all buttigieg gotchas, made more so by the implied QED

if you think mckinney's bad, wait til you find out where bernie's been working

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate

I wonder who rogermex whores for

the Deep State probly

yawn

i mean if you want to look for legit reasons to support someone other than buttigieg, they're not hard to find

https://splinternews.com/mayor-petes-favorite-tv-shows-are-pretty-damning-stuff-1838667955

yeah we played the Phish card 5 months ago

news travels slowly at the kids' table

idk his take on succession is p disappointing

I’ll be honest and I don’t know how it will play here, there is one idea I like from Buttigieg it is the notion of recapturing faith from the right. The rest I don’t care much for, he just seems like a less popular Biden so not much to think about or feel threatened by if you are in the more progressive camp.

Meanwhile a couple Sanders fans are going after Warren's teacher background.

Jacobin is a cesspool.

one idea I like from Buttigieg it is the notion of recapturing faith from the right.

That's fine with me. Recapturing the US flag as a symbol of a nation that includes people of the left would also do the left no harm. These are potent symbols, but it really sucks how much of politics is just fronting for these symbols that tell us nothing concrete about how the person embracing them intends to run government.

What did Vincent Donofrio’s wife do to piss off Sanders trolls so much btw? Saw a blip on my “celebrities quitting twitter” screen the other day.

if you think mckinney's bad, wait til you find out where bernie's been working

irl lol

there is one idea I like from Buttigieg it is the notion of recapturing faith from the right.

if Warren follows “break up big tech” with “criminalise religion” she’s got my vote

i don't see anything soooooo disgusting in that Pete quote (and I'm a Warren supporter). This is a fucking primary, of course people are going to try to find a way to elevate themselves above those polling higher than them. That's a pretty tame way of doing it too. Jesus fucking christ.

Jacobin publishes as much innocuous stuff as poorly argued trash (putting them on par with most outlets) but Meagan Day should know better than to think she's being persuasive there.

she's doubled down, and the encouraging comments are something to behold

Stans gonna stan.

i'm glad "a couple Sanders fans" are being used as cudgels

politics is the worst. watch baseball.

I'm watching Ozu. More democratic.

obv you've never heard the "baseball and democracy" monologue from Richard Greenberg's play "Take Me Out"