I just watched _The Third Man_ in full for the first time

her love of Harry Lime remaining despite his crimes is a sign of something other than someone who has blinders on.

otm-- in the last third of the movie her flat explanations for her loyalty are almost mystical-- "a person doesn't change because you find out more"-- and she is the element that allows this coming-of-age story to simultaneously cast itself as an imitation of holly's own (in the end it comes down to a white hat shooting a black hat) and a subversion of them (the shooting is the culmination of a lifelong friendship, holly will never again be able to divide the world into his old caTEGories, and he will certainly not ride into the sunset w the girl).

her acceptance of the "irrational" or "immoral" power of her own loyalty to him is also the symbol of this sad postapocalyptic consciousness the europeans are imagined in the movie to have about themselves

Crabbin enters the scene w/his wife

this is one in what is implied to be a succession of mistresses isn't it! maybe one of them is his wife. the one in this scene is the one he says "i can't very well introduce you to everybody" to tho i think.

he is always physically moving them away from other characters (and from the camera).

http://www.tedxnashville.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Ketch-Secor-2-of-28-1160x700.jpg

"I have a master's in Old Man Hat!"

Oops. Meant for the Ken Burns' thread.

Lol

Anna is annoying like unyielding people are; the film understands this.

She is definitely better done than the same character would have been in another movie. The story is that Graham Greene wanted a happy ending and Carol Reed nixed it, assume it has been discussed upthread.

I can recall either the Harry Lime theme or the Curb Your Enthusiasm music, but not both. If the wrong ones in my head I won’t find the other.

They go together like a horse and carriage... I have the same with Curb Theme and "Love & Marriage"

I saw this film recently, while I was on holiday, in Vienna, with a friend who is a little bit obsessed with the film. I knew the twist already (Orson Welles isn't dead!) which spoilered it a little, but the atmosphere of the film, its twists and turns and odd moral logic and dark humour, was still deeply compelling. One of the things that affected me most deeply, was the way that the strange, atmospheric, ruined city of Vienna (with its weird twisting baroque statues and its shortcuts and its sewers) itself seemed to be a character in the film, as much as any of the humans.

We visisted a lot of scenes from the film - Harry Lime's house where the 'accident' took place; the infamous door with its baroque tat; we even went down the sewers - of course there is a Third Man Tour, where they will pull up the weird triangular covers and take you down into those passages and sewers and buried rivers and sluices where they actually filmed it (rats and all). It's an amazing, magical place - the film does a pretty good job of conveying just how creepy those sewers are. However, they don't adequately capture the smell!

I have photos of a lot of the sites, including the sewers, if anyone is interested in seeing them? But if you are ever in Vienna and love the film, the sewer tour is a real treat.

not many cities you can say that about

Paris?

Would love to see those photos!

Love this film but I think I'd give a tour of the sewers a miss tbh.

playing crpgs in my formative years means i would go on a sewer tour like a shot even if this movie didn't exist

would love to visit the site of the "accident", that's so neat branwell. def post pics

Old man, you never should have gone to the poilce, you know.

My server tonight is named Callahan, and my first thought was not Clint Eastwood.

Calloway. I'm not Irish.

i don't want another murder in this case, and you were born to be murdered, so

:)

You can have any part you want, so long as you don't interfere...I have never cut you out of anything yet.

I never knew ye olde ILX before the war, with its sinister music, its 12ft lizards and poxy fules.

Harry, delete ILX plz

A few borad beefs, a few image bombz - why don’t you try and catch a real troll, Callahan?

_"I never knew the old Vienna before the war, with its Strauss music, its glamour and easy charm."_

Constantinople suited me better

still, good fellows, on the whole. did their best, you know.

Oh, Paine, Paine.

I like a good Western. That’s what I like about them, sir. You can pick them up and put them down anytime.

i’ve got them muddled

Vienna doesn't really look any worse than a lot of other European cities. Bombed about a bit.

all's well that ends well! ladies and gentlemen, i have much pleasure in introducing mr. holly martins, from the other side.

He's only a scribbler with too much drink in him. Take Mr. Holly home.

That's Mr Martins' little joke, of course. We all know perfectly well Zane Grey wrote what we call "westerns."

It wasn't for German gin.

We just watched an episode of Richard Ayoade's Travel Man where they do The Third Man tour and are underwhelmed. Hats off to whoever had the idea to turn the actual sewer system into a tourist trap.

I am annoyed that's not an actual quote from the film.

I like a good Western. That’s what I like about them, sir. You can pick them up and put them down anytime.

iirc there is a cut and change of location between the two halves of this line, implying payne has been enthusing cheerfully about westerns for an entire jeep ride

Have you, Sergeant? Author? Martins? Thank you, Sergeant.
☝🏻😗

lolllll

i can't very well introduce you to everybody.

Truly delightful character, responsible for one of the most clever tricks in cinema.

no! a major? did you really?

_I like a good Western. That’s what I like about them, sir. You can pick them up and put them down anytime._

iirc there is a cut and change of location between the two halves of this line, implying payne has been enthusing cheerfully about westerns for an entire jeep ride

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Sacher

Mr. Crabbin?

Once when I was hard up I sold some tyres on the black market.

Even at the end his thoughts were of you.

What's the use of another post-mortem?