2020 Democratic presidential primary

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One can hope.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2019 21:45 (six years ago)

This deeply troubling question from Gabriel Debenedetti about things that have not happened, but could maybe possibly happen, leaves me deeply troubled. Impeachment will certainly suck the air out of all other politics, but how the politics fall out of that is anyone's guess. imo this hot take is just the usual stirring the pot, trying to get attention in a crowded media market.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 28 September 2019 21:49 (six years ago)

"she's got a plan to excuse this

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-defends-_n_5733164";

this is five years old.

akm, Saturday, 28 September 2019 22:52 (six years ago)

has her position changed

Simon H., Saturday, 28 September 2019 22:55 (six years ago)

that article has bernie being criticized for taking the same position, if I'm reading it right

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:04 (six years ago)

there's not a lot of daylight between their answers to the I/P question in the CFR thing someone linked earlier imo...warren has more details, I suppose bernie very vaguely implies he would stop military aid to Israel:

"My administration would also be willing to bring real pressure to bear on both sides, including conditioning military aid, to create consequences for moves that undermine the chances for peace."

https://www.cfr.org/article/bernie-sanders

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:08 (six years ago)

warren was videoed telling a paletinian activist that she was against the occupation. not sure where that is but I did see it a few months ago.

akm, Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:19 (six years ago)

is this the first time a candidate has accentuated their messaging to suggest Trump might not be around in 2020

We're going to defeat Donald Trump, or Mike Pence, or whomever else the Republicans put up.

But we need your help to win. Chip in now: https://t.co/NiKvZVt33c pic.twitter.com/EvptzODbz0

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) September 29, 2019

Simon H., Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:42 (six years ago)

his people used the right objective pronoun!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:43 (six years ago)

whomst everelse

j., Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:48 (six years ago)

Red Sharpie...nice.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 September 2019 01:02 (six years ago)

his people used the right objective pronoun!


bernie: objectively good

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 29 September 2019 06:34 (six years ago)

objectivists love him

k3vin k., Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:02 (six years ago)

New CNN South Carolina Poll: Biden leads among black voters

Black White

Biden 45% 29%
Warren 4% 28%
Sanders 13% 8%
Buttigieg 0% 8%
Harris 6% 1%
Steyer 5% 2%
https://t.co/MoNYaacY3t

— David P Gelles (@gelles) September 29, 2019

Simon H., Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:08 (six years ago)

is 1% within the margin of error?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:09 (six years ago)

oops sorry that formatting messed me up

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:09 (six years ago)

mainly posted cause that is one depressing Biden stranglehold and also to lol @ Pete

Simon H., Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:15 (six years ago)

It's not depressing; it's reality, and I get it. It's still only September. Barack Obama was nuthin' until Iowa.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:17 (six years ago)

They also did Nevada

#NEW Nevada Democratic Primary:

Sanders 22%
Biden 22%
Warren 18%
Harris 5%
Buttigieg 4%
Steyer 4%
Yang 3%
Booker 2%@CNN Poll

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) September 29, 2019

Simon H., Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:35 (six years ago)

all the early states save SC show biden's lead down to margin of error or gone entirely.

also lol who are these would-be steyer voters??

i'm not a garbageman i am garbage, man. let me handle my garbage, damn (m bison), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:37 (six years ago)

what this tells me is that the more people pay attention to the election, the less likely they are to want biden as the nominee

i'm not a garbageman i am garbage, man. let me handle my garbage, damn (m bison), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:41 (six years ago)

The results of Iowa and NH are going to alter the standings in subsequent states, perhaps enormously.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:49 (six years ago)

Yep.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:50 (six years ago)

it def feels like warren's the only one actually gaining new people. bernie and buttigieg have been steady, biden and harris have fallen. harris' fall has really surprised me.

i'm not a garbageman i am garbage, man. let me handle my garbage, damn (m bison), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:59 (six years ago)

NH is interesting cuz Warren and Sanders are both senators in neighboring states

Non stop chantar (crüt), Sunday, 29 September 2019 15:14 (six years ago)

The bump Harris got from the first debate was temporary, possibly because she had to walk a few of her winning positions back. I think the lack of real momentum caused many of her supporters who are concerned about "electability" to hop back over to Biden and Warren.

Non stop chantar (crüt), Sunday, 29 September 2019 15:17 (six years ago)

yeah, "electability" (and the lack thereof) becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that way.

i'm not a garbageman i am garbage, man. let me handle my garbage, damn (m bison), Sunday, 29 September 2019 15:19 (six years ago)

Brain genius moves

BREAKING — The Biden campaign has written a letter to top executives and hosts at major news networks demanding that they stop booking Giuliani. https://t.co/aLX082Snuf

With @maxwelltani

— Sam Stein (@samstein) September 29, 2019

Simon H., Sunday, 29 September 2019 19:30 (six years ago)

I support continued booking of Giuliani AND continued pressure from the Biden campaign to stop booking Giuliani. The first makes Trump look worse, the second makes Biden look worse. Those are both good things.

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 29 September 2019 19:37 (six years ago)

I'm not sure how this makes Biden look particularly bad. Giuliani certainly is spreading a false narrative about Biden, using the enormous megaphone provided to him by those news networks. By lending him that platform when it is clear that he is lying, they are complicit in spreading that false narrative, even if they verbally challenge his version of events. Biden has a legit beef imo.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 29 September 2019 19:43 (six years ago)

yeah i agree

treeship., Sunday, 29 September 2019 19:46 (six years ago)

Heh

You can laugh at this if you'd like, but how many other campaigns would be willing to hire ducks as staffers in the first place? https://t.co/oD8D6KGiNF

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) September 29, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 29 September 2019 19:51 (six years ago)

it def feels like warren's the only one actually gaining new people. bernie and buttigieg have been steady, biden and harris have fallen. harris' fall has really surprised me.

― i'm not a garbageman i am garbage, man. let me handle my garbage, damn (m bison),

Also surprised on Kamala's fall. While its still early, looks tough for her now with the loss of initial momentum. I thought Mayor Pete was falling too. Yang seems to have closed the gap on both more or less and his trajectory still climbing.

Once Brontosaurus Biden collapses and we see who picks off the votes then it starts to become clearer

anvil, Monday, 30 September 2019 16:37 (six years ago)

i’m predicting president warren

treeship., Monday, 30 September 2019 16:43 (six years ago)

feels like it's Yang's turn to be the media's favorite candidate for 2 weeks

flappy bird, Monday, 30 September 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

Yang is the dems Herman Cain

i'm not a garbageman i am garbage, man. let me handle my garbage, damn (m bison), Monday, 30 September 2019 22:23 (six years ago)

but Cain actually led all the republican candidates in the polling for about two weeks late in 2011

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 30 September 2019 23:28 (six years ago)

he's the only one who hasn't had his turn yet & he's doing slightly better in some polls

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 03:20 (six years ago)

Gabbard hasn't been adored yet by the media. Nor has Booker. Or Marianne Whatshername. All Yang has going for him with the media is his appeal as a freak, but not more so than Whatshername.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 03:53 (six years ago)

williamson is fewer characters than whatshername

adam, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 04:22 (six years ago)

she shoulda put that on her yard signs then

j., Tuesday, 1 October 2019 04:29 (six years ago)

Tulsi won't get adored by the media. Assad alone is enough to see to that. She's probably even more media disliked than Bernie, and also polls too low.

Yang will get his turn I think, but maybe as curiosity. His numbers are creeping into the bottom end of serious (if Pete and Kamala are still considered as serious at this point)

anvil, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 08:58 (six years ago)

Yang won’t get a turn unless his polls go up 10 points
The media is tired of the low polling candidates

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 12:35 (six years ago)

buttigieg, harris, and yang all being in the same "tier" is wild

Non stop chantar (crüt), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 12:50 (six years ago)

Who is in which tier right now in your view, crüt?

anvil, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 13:06 (six years ago)

Pretty clear it's:

Tier One: Biden, Warren, Sanders

Tier Two: Buttigieg, Harris, Yang

Tier Three: Beto, Klobachar, Booker, Castro, Gabbard

Tier Zero: Bennett, Steyer, Williamson, etc.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 13:39 (six years ago)

96 Tiers

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 13:55 (six years ago)

Whoa, @facebook's Mark Zuckerberg calls @ewarren an "existential" threat to his business interests, says he'll "go to the mat" and "fight" herhttps://t.co/QwUhD5Vmav

— Summer Brennan 🌈 (@summerbrennan) October 1, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

he should chill out, read twitter and find out what a neolib Warren is

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 15:11 (six years ago)

He just hates capitalism

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 15:12 (six years ago)


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