PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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xp I think the Fizzles mood of absurd was catching

gyac, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:36 (six years ago)

The ditch awaits.

nashwan, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:37 (six years ago)

s.bush otm - whether it will work or not remains to be seen. we've seen how shamelessness and 'plaster-stripping' energised trump's base in the US. unfortunately for johnson, there is one set of pearl clutchers who this type of behaviour will definitely alienate: so-called moderate (i.e. socially liberal, economically-right leaning) 'cameroonian' voters in the home counties. he better hope dominic cummings is very good at counting

stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:38 (six years ago)

bush is such a fucking weirdo with his cameron fandom it puts me off reading recently him tbh!

Some MPs were in tears tonight, some walked out, some told me they feared they won’t be able to return home because of the language the PM is using, some told me abuse on twitter has already got worse tonight:https://t.co/yqv18iKsEG

— Hannah Al-Othman (@HannahAlOthman) September 25, 2019

calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:42 (six years ago)

Oh Nick

@NickBoles
1h
My lovely generous-spirited True Blue Tory sister has just sent me the following message: “I have now given up watching the PM - he has behaved more revoltingly than one could believe possible. He is the nastiest man imaginable. I hope it rebounds on him. To bed in disgust.”

nashwan, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:46 (six years ago)

not like jess phillips to not just tweet that herself

stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:49 (six years ago)

bush is such a fucking weirdo with his cameron fandom it puts me off reading recently him tbh!


that review was interesting but weird. and as you say the “likability” at the end was weird. “can’t help but like him” just you try!

Fizzles, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:49 (six years ago)

Lads, lads, we may as well give up now

I never thought I’d type these words. But if someone doesn’t get a grip of Boris Johnson and his No.10 operation I’m voting for Jeremy Corbyn.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) September 25, 2019

Stevie T, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:52 (six years ago)

reading that i think there may have been something in that chinese.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:54 (six years ago)

job's totally fucked now :(

calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:56 (six years ago)

He knows, too, that criticism of him in the organs of the press that really matter will be couched in the language of “both sides”, and that ultimately, whether it works out for him, politically, there will always be close protection officers.

ya burnt laura kuenssberg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:59 (six years ago)

he'll just continue doing this - ramping up the culture war with a bannon-style "let them call you racist, wear it as badge of honour" strategy. this could be effective if the opposition get sucked into the same 'sir have you no honour' trap the US democrats fell into - party needs to keep on hammering their transformative and inspiring policies

people will have a genuine choice at the next election. let's hope they don't choose the bunch of hard right head banging libertarian types with a prospectus for singapore-on-sea

stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:04 (six years ago)

Latest @Survation poll, 25 September (changes since GE17):

Con 27% (-17)
Lab 24% (-17)
LD 22% (+14)
BXP 16% (+16)

[My seat estimate]
Con 286 (-31)
Lab 243 (-19)
SNP 51 (+16)
LD 45 (+33)
BXP 1 (+1)
Oth 24 (-)

Tories & DUP: 296 (-31)
All other MPs: 346 (+32)

— Stats for Lefties 🌹 🌹 (@LeftieStats) September 25, 2019

It may seem astonishing that Labour could outpoll the Lib Dems by just 2pts and win 198 more seats.

But bear in mind that, in 1983, Labour won 26.8% in England. The SDP-Liberal Alliance won 26.4%.

Labour won 148 seats. The Alliance won 14.

yeah! eat them fucking stats Swinson LibDems with pretensions of majority government.

calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:07 (six years ago)

Ian Murray: “If he doesn't get a deal through this House, or a no-deal through this House, by 19 October, will he seek an extension from the EU to 31 January?”

PM: “No.”

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) September 25, 2019

stet, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:15 (six years ago)

resigning then. good

stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:16 (six years ago)

Stats4Lefties predictions always seem ridic pessimistic to me but perhaps they should be.

nashwan, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:16 (six years ago)

dan hodges.... otm?
https://mobile.twitter.com/lewis_goodall

stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:21 (six years ago)

I think the referendum result has to be respected. But at any price? Literally nothing else matters? The rule of law. Basic decency towards the family and friends of a murdered MP. Respect for our fundamental principles and institutions. By any means necessary now?

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) September 25, 2019

stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:21 (six years ago)

3 hours 46 minutes pic.twitter.com/ogqzrWPKak

— a a dril (@demarionunn) September 25, 2019

Life comes at you fast.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:22 (six years ago)

xxp if you add the "coalition of chaos" seats from the SNP it looks a much more optimistic picture. Please please come to your senses and go back to voting for the tories Dan!

calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:26 (six years ago)

ordinarily him resigning in humiliation would be that but all the laws of political gravity seem to be in temporary suspension. could still be quite a dangerous moment for the opposition - presume he would lead CONs into imminent GE, standing on an “I tried I really did but these frustrated us at every turn / I am brexit 4real” platform. still don’t see how that builds enough of a coalition but haven’t looked at the numbers closely granted

stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:28 (six years ago)

all the laws of political gravity seem to be in temporary suspension.

it's very unsettling.

'today the vice president threw the minority leader through a table and fractured her collarbone'

'yes, but ACTUALLY, i know it seems dramatic but has anything actually CHANGED as a result of this?'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:48 (six years ago)

I wonder if any letters went to the 1922 tonight. BH etc etc

stet, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:53 (six years ago)

It's weird how little you hear 1922 getting mentioned during such dramatic events etc.

calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:55 (six years ago)

well not weird .. just predictable.

calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:56 (six years ago)

Mail has buried more than one news line in its polls, these are some interesting numbers.


https://twitter.com/sundersays/status/1176997880286130176?s=21

stet, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:18 (six years ago)

link doesn't work

calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:24 (six years ago)

An distressing amount of this depends on the inside of Nigel Farage's head.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:32 (six years ago)

I misread that, sorry

51% of voters think Johnson should resign (23% of Conservatives)

41% of voters think he should not resign (73% of Conservatives)

It does not feature in the news report writethrough https://t.co/ITU8kXWGSV

— Sunder Katwala (@sundersays) September 25, 2019

stet, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:42 (six years ago)

James 'Genius' Cleverley explaining that all sides are using shorthand, the Labour Party are calling the bill the Benn Bill, which is not its actual name, and the Prime Minister is calling it the Surrender Bill. So that's all right then.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 September 2019 06:27 (six years ago)

ICONIC reaction shot here from ⁦@LaylaMoran⁩ ⁦⁦@BarryGardiner⁩ and ⁦@Sandbach⁩ on @BBCNewsnight⁩ just now (👏 👏👏 studio director for catching it!) #newsnight pic.twitter.com/SxAVpG60XP

— Maya Rostowska (@maya_rstw) September 25, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 26 September 2019 06:42 (six years ago)

It's started this morning, a succession of poor old middle aged male Tory MPs pointing out that the abuse they are getting is every bit as bad and distressing... apparently.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 September 2019 06:44 (six years ago)

tfw fred b does a post

Giffed it pic.twitter.com/W6KWIFgYj8

— Ed Brown (@Edsbrown) September 25, 2019

stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 06:45 (six years ago)

I'm not buying any of this "we need to be nicer to each other" rinse from Brendan Cox earlier. Politics has been adversarial and tribal in this country as far I can remember and that isn't the issue. The issue is a conservative government that has gone to the far right and courted extreme elements of the far right with their policies, tone, language etc being civil to nazis doesn't solve anything.

calzino, Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:07 (six years ago)

yes - melt. next

DA disappointingly cautious when quizzed re new immigration position

stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:09 (six years ago)

wonder if cummings has seen some internal polling after this intervention that’s driving this strategy

Totally unprecedented to see a Conservative Prime Minister blaming their own failures on specific MPs using a poisonous and wildly irresponsible public vs Parliament framing. pic.twitter.com/yEtz23ewtC

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) September 25, 2019

stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:12 (six years ago)

Let’s pause to remember Brendan Cox has a few boundaries issues with women, too. In future we should probably seek comment from Jo’s sister, who stepped up to run the Jo Cox Foundation when he had to stand down.

coup de twat (suzy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:13 (six years ago)

(xp) No doubt about it, I would have thought. "It worked for Trump, Boris is doing the right thing" according to an unnamed Tory MP (according to a Sky correspondent).

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:14 (six years ago)

either berger has completely drunk the kool-aid or the LDs have some properly EXTRAORDINARY internal polling for finchley

stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:53 (six years ago)

looks like it will make the seat a labour gain tho so that’s good

stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:54 (six years ago)

I wouldn’t bet against her tbh.

ShariVari, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:00 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFX3kL-XUAAM8Iv?format=jpg&name=small

that would take a huge swing

calzino, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:03 (six years ago)

xxxp Jewish chronicle says the latter

gyac, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:06 (six years ago)

presumably take 6k off each CONS and LAB which would put it solidly in three-way horse territory - could also bring out some personal vote due to her treatment (ie bullying) in recent times. might be right - def must be in play else she wouldn’t be parachuting in

stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:10 (six years ago)

She could get the swing, imo.

A lot of the Tory voters are fairly well-to-do Asians who are likely to be suspicious of Johnson but not likely to flip to Labour. There's a large (20%+) Jewish community that may be receptive to a young Jewish 'campaigner against anti-semitism'. There's also an increasing gentrification which probably serves the LDs well.

ShariVari, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:12 (six years ago)

The responses to this story are from angry voters worried she’ll take votes away from the Tories and let Labour in. Idt it’s fair to say she’s “parachuted” in when she’s got a home in the area and was raised in London, not to put scare quotes around “campaigner against antisemitism”.

gyac, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:26 (six years ago)

fair

stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:30 (six years ago)

She’s from Wembley. I think she’ll take Jewish Tory votes for sure, because they are not Brexity.

coup de twat (suzy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:31 (six years ago)

an aside: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/25/wrightbus-goes-into-administration-1400-jobs-routemaster-northern-ireland

(maker of the boris bus)

koogs, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:37 (six years ago)

she'll take Jewish Tory votes for sure, because they are not Brexity

not in my wembley-adjacent jewish family, unfortunately

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:41 (six years ago)


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