He doesn't just give those compliments out yo
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
guessing Fallonface wasnt wild for Silence
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
if he shits these out so he can get the money together to make more films like Silence then godspeed imo
― Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link
well, he wanted to make this for 10+ years, he says
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
Looking forward to “Gimme Shelter” with you ibstruments tonight.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link
heh *toy instruments*
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
THE IRISHMAN is good! takes 90 minutes to lock in & clear out the cobwebs / adjust to CGI, but the scope is a virtue, the performances are killer (Joseph! Frank! Pesci!) & it eventually coheres into a heart-stopping meditation on the myopia of time. an old man movie for the ages.— david ehrlich (@davidehrlich) September 27, 2019
THE IRISHMAN finds its own signature—as a study of haunted men and broken loyalty—a little too late (well after two hours). Until then, it’s a slab of Scorsese’s core actors reminding you of older movies. But many of these conversations are electrifying.— Joshua Rothkopf (@joshrothkopf) September 27, 2019
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link
Cool, a movie that doesn't really get going until it's two hours in. Neat.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
"adjust to the CGI" = bad news
the CGI in this needed to be legitimately amazing because anything less is just a Polar Express/Avatar joke
those tweets make it sound like The Aviator
― flappy bird, Saturday, 28 September 2019 05:16 (four years ago) link
Scorsese knows what his audience is hoping for: glory days, resurrected. But he also understands the impossibility of anyone being exactly as they once were. So he weaves that longing into both The Irishman‘s text and its technique, presenting Sheeran’s youthful recollections … as augmented hoodlum reveries that will soon catch up with the character’s spiritually impoverished present.
https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review-the-irishman-is-shrouded-in-an-alluringly-funereal-aura/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 September 2019 05:21 (four years ago) link
the more nuanced reviews of this have me more excited to see it. i'm ok with CGI, the trailers look okay as far as that goes. having just seen Samuel L Jackson w/25 years shaved off for Captain Marvel, i think it can work well.
― omar little, Saturday, 28 September 2019 06:03 (four years ago) link
Was too caught up in figuring out the maybe-cg-maybe-not-cg faces in the trailer that I barely got a sense of the plot. But sorta real, sorta unreal cg a la Fincher is its own aesthetic that I actually kind of enjoy?Anyway Scorsese is (miraculously, judging against contemporaries) still capable of surprising and doing good shit so I’ve got hopes.
― circa1916, Saturday, 28 September 2019 06:32 (four years ago) link
The CGI in Silence was really poor.
― What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Saturday, 28 September 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link
Good chat between MS and QT:
https://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1904-Fall-2019/Conversation-Scorsese-Tarantino.aspx?fbclid=IwAR0XVAgPO3Ls8n8hdGknmGN7TwmW0BmA_wQ0h8krzZldnUX6j7xq5mpnpCk
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 30 September 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link
Thanks for that
― calstars, Monday, 30 September 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
Great interview, thanks!
― flappy bird, Monday, 30 September 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
yeah thx for posting that was great (even if I only understood like half of it)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link
koresky's take
http://www.reverseshot.org/reviews/entry/2590/irishman
― devvvine, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
initial roundup
https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6612-martin-scorsese-s-the-irishman
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:01 (four years ago) link
All my favorites. I'm cautiously optimistic.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link
I'm not.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link
What fire and music?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
we know Pacino can't match Scarface, Eric
(ptui)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
Pacino being in Scarface automatically makes it De Palma's worst movie.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
you pass over Carlito's Way?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link
just a kazoo with some sparkles
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link
Bookmark this great piece from @BilgeEbiri and read it **after** you see “The Irishman”. https://t.co/FmQgtrF5LB— Todd "Your Shot is Targeted for Today" Vaziri (@tvaziri) September 30, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
fuck that, i'm gonna read it now and no-one can stop me
― Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
Spoiler: people die in this movie
― calstars, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link
whoa
― flappy bird, Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
A friend of mine just referred to them as The Italian Beatles. pic.twitter.com/mhv8ezjNnb— Sean Burns (@SeanMBurns) September 27, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
Gian, Paolo, Giorgio, and Reengo
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
Who is Pete Best
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 October 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
surely John Cazale
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 4 October 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
FREDOOOOO
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 October 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link
people losing their minds over Scorsese saying Marvel movies are "not cinema"
if anyone has the right to say what is and what isn't cinema it's Scorsese
you could chuck all of his own films out and he'd still be one of the most important film preservationists in history
― flappy bird, Friday, 4 October 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
Scorsese otm for the most part
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 October 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
I still crack up sometimes about Scorsese's essay for the millennium issue of Rolling Stones where he talks about industry people telling him "he should check out The Waterboy!".
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
they're more like a marketing exercise
xp
Scorsese said what needed to be said. Constantly. By as many people as possible. This from a fan of disaster movies.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 4 October 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link
well, Marty is also a fan of DeMille, including the spectacles like Samson and Delilah and Ten Commandments
those still had recognizable human dynamics embedded in them
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 October 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
i mostly like the Marvel movies as entertainment but he's pretty otm, also there's the minor film tragedy of so many good actors being booked for all these movies and having less time for other work. pretty sure 90% of Robert Downey Jr's screen time the past decade-plus has been scenes of him talking trash to Captain America while surrounded by glowing consoles, or in extreme close-up while his Iron Man suit short-circuits for the fiftieth time.
― omar little, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
I do think there's a difference between the MCU and pre-2008 comic book movies. The Raimi Spider-Man trilogy is great for what it is. the MCU movies I've seen are just inert, totally lifeless
― flappy bird, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
spider-man 2 is still my model for what a comic book movie should be
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
yeah the first two really are the gold standard. ditto for first two X-Men movies
― flappy bird, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
where are these comments of Scorsese's btw
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
Don’t ask Martin Scorsese his thoughts on the record-breaking “Avengers: Endgame” because he hasn’t seen it, nor will he ever see it. The legendary filmmaker recently dismissed the Marvel Cinematic Universe during an interview with Empire magazine, saying that Marvel movies do not possess the traits that make cinema truly special.“I don’t see them. I tried, you know? But that’s not cinema,” Scorsese told Empire. “Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.”Scorsese is fresh off universal praise for his new drama “The Irishman,” which debuted on opening night of the 2019 New York Film Festival. The gangster epic, starring Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, and Joe Pesci, debuted to instant Oscar buzz and is considered a top contender to land nominations for its actors, plus Best Picture and Best Director bids, among others. Disney and Marvel Studios is also launching an Oscar campaign for “Avengers: Endgame,” which grossed over $2.7 billion worldwide this year to become the highest-grossing movie in history (unadjusted for inflation).Scorsese’s thoughts on Marvel movies recall a similar opinion shared by Ethan Hawke in August 2018. The “First Reformed” actor told Film Stage that moviegoers were treating superhero movies as if they were great works of art, which is not the case.“Now we have the problem that they tell us ‘Logan’ is a great movie,” Hawke said. “Well, it’s a great superhero movie. It still involves people in tights with metal coming out of their hands. It’s not Bresson. It’s not Bergman. But they talk about it like it is. I went to see ‘Logan’ ‘cause everyone was like, ‘This is a great movie’ and I was like, ‘Really? No, this is a fine superhero movie.’ There’s a difference, but big business doesn’t think there’s a difference. Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it.”
“I don’t see them. I tried, you know? But that’s not cinema,” Scorsese told Empire. “Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.”
Scorsese is fresh off universal praise for his new drama “The Irishman,” which debuted on opening night of the 2019 New York Film Festival. The gangster epic, starring Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, and Joe Pesci, debuted to instant Oscar buzz and is considered a top contender to land nominations for its actors, plus Best Picture and Best Director bids, among others. Disney and Marvel Studios is also launching an Oscar campaign for “Avengers: Endgame,” which grossed over $2.7 billion worldwide this year to become the highest-grossing movie in history (unadjusted for inflation).
Scorsese’s thoughts on Marvel movies recall a similar opinion shared by Ethan Hawke in August 2018. The “First Reformed” actor told Film Stage that moviegoers were treating superhero movies as if they were great works of art, which is not the case.
“Now we have the problem that they tell us ‘Logan’ is a great movie,” Hawke said. “Well, it’s a great superhero movie. It still involves people in tights with metal coming out of their hands. It’s not Bresson. It’s not Bergman. But they talk about it like it is. I went to see ‘Logan’ ‘cause everyone was like, ‘This is a great movie’ and I was like, ‘Really? No, this is a fine superhero movie.’ There’s a difference, but big business doesn’t think there’s a difference. Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it.”
― omar little, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
twitter I think
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
i do think some of the Marvel movies that step a bit outside of the primary "Cinematic Universe" storyline exhibit more energy or creativity or flashes of humanity (Ragnarok, Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, the Ant Mans), but there's only been a couple of them I would ever want to see again, even though i have liked most of them. but it's just the streaming TV model brought to film imo.
― omar little, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
I think the MCU's "quality control" policy just smooths everything out and makes it so punishingly bland, obviously this is better/safer business than rolling the dice (like Hollywood did for a century), but if you can't hit the lows of idk, 2005 Fantastic Four or 2003 Hulk (not that bad imo), then you can't make a Spider-Man 2 or X2.
― flappy bird, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link