2020 Democratic presidential primary

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She's his National Press Secretary. I think the last thing she did was publish the private information of some random Kamala Harris donor. She seems like a very bad hire, like David Sirota.

I mean Sanders is my #2 candidate but his campaign is no less full of tut-tutting asshole one-percenters than any other.

She was complaining about having a bunch of flights cancelled and being stuck in Chicago on her way back from a wedding in Bahrain. Why would she be complaining about wearing her own outfit?

She's his National Press Secretary. I think the last thing she did was publish the private information of some random Kamala Harris donor. She seems like a very bad hire, like David Sirota.

― Frederik B, Monday, September 23, 2019 10:04 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

seriously, does a bot write this shit?

best. presidential candidate. EVER!

if a bot writes on ilxor and 65 active users are there to read it, that woman still comes across as a dolt wrt espadrillegate.

espadrilles are a smart summer look

on men?

there aren't many other kinds of shoes that are equally at home at the office and at the beach

on men and women, alfred. more on women, though.

Fred is it possible you can find a second note somewhere?

brianna joy grey regularly appears on a leftist podcast with a segment where they throw enemies into the gulag. so she's cool.

Espadrilles were good enough for Don Johnson in Miami Vice; they are good enough for me.

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— Matt Barnum (@matt_barnum) September 23, 2019

idk about this terrible byline, but this articulates how I feel at the moment tbh
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/462654-krystal-ball-democrats-on-track-to-nominate-warren-lose-to-trump

i thought worrying about electability was a mug's game

I don't think I've ever put forward that argument

krystall ball is her real name

fine i thought worrying about electability was is a mug's game

if america picks trump over warren, fuck america

Just consider the number of non-ironic takes on the incredible brilliance of Warren's selfie line.

this sentence gave me pause. has ilx weighed in on Warren's selfie lines? i don't think she'll be able to keep doing them (even now they sometimes run til 3-4am), but i non-ironically think they're a good idea. if acclaimed political analyst Krystal Ball doesn't understand why they're a good idea, i doubt she gets anything else.

But what really terrifies me is that Warren is likely to lose to Trump.

i like how Krystal Ball ignores head-to-head polling showing Warren beating Trump (just like pretty much all the major democratic candidates) even as she makes the premise of her entire article an Iowa poll showing Warren in the lead. why is the Iowa poll she cites a good poll that is justification for saying that Warren is going to win the nomination, while the numerous polls that show that people prefer her to trump are not worth mentioning?

And then there's Pocahontas. Is it a culturally acceptable nickname? No it definitely is not. Is it brutally effective? Yes it is.

Because what it really signals as my friend Saagar has pointed out is that Warren is fake. That she says she's the beer drinking Oklahoma girl when all of the cultural signaling is Harvard professor.

...

"To put it quite simply, Warren is a wine track candidate. As much as she wants to run as the down home Oklahoma girl, she hasn't been that betsy for a long time."

I can barely parse these sentences.

beer drinking gatekeepers, pulse of america.

do people actually talk like this? do people say "you haven't been that betsy since high school"? no, they don't.

lmao "Pocahontas" is not "brutally effective"

and to the people that are swayed by it, the reason isn't that it subliminally references her supposed fakery. people that are swayed by it are giant fucking racists who love hearing their favorite dumbshit president say racist things.

It's no accident that the first to fully fall for Warren were the post-grad types. The folks who have successfully ascended the meritocracy and jumped through all the collegiate hoops.

They fundamentally believe in the system because it's worked for them. They want to help working and lower class Americans, sure, but they don't actually trust them. "I've got a plan for that" is like a magical elixir to this group.

warren is not the candidate who "fundamentally believes in the system" though. that would be joe biden and pete buttigieg.

you're just saying that because you went to college

krystal ball's wiki is pretty thin but she does have a scam PAC in her credentials. And she was a UVa transfer.

what did I just read

yeah "Krystal" "Ball" is kind of all over the map there.

i think the "total war" between sanders and warren supporters on social media is a very unfortunate development, especially because it seems rooted in unhinged misrepresentations on both sides

that it's on Twitter means we exaggerate its vitriol

it's pretty vitriolic. sanders supporters are saying warren is another warmongering centrist and warren partisans are saying that bernie "bros" are a pack of frothing-at-the-mouth racist transphobes, barely better than trump supporters

so there is going to be bad blood when one of them ends up being the nominee. hopefully it's contained to the twitter commentariat and doesn't impact turnout.

and friend of the messageboard krystal ball isn't helping with this column, sorry to say

here’s some vitriol: they’re both good

that's basically my take. if I had to choose I'd prefer Warren a hair over Bernie but I'll gladly take either one

The quotes from Bernie bros making the rounds in Jezebel and whatnot are pretty fuckin weak evidence of abuse tbh (though I'm sure it happens)

so we'll be in this thread until Iowa eh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNHjg72difM

trump is less popular ever and the two most promising democratic candidates aren’t milquetoast status quo liberals and we’re still gonna lose?

guess we’ll just all die then lol

actually, you will find his approval rating is the same as Clinton and Obama at this point in their presidencies!

(I know this is a dumb fucking point that doesn't account for the fact that they were both much higher than Trump ever was and that Trump's support is basically always a solid 38-44$% but still I hear it repeated all the time)

tbh I could see almost any nominee beating trump

but Biden doing it would be a hollow victory at best

I mean it still shocks the conscience that he has anywhere near that kind of support

Trump too.

I kinda liked that in the article on Angelica Ross that included negative comments from fans of both Sanders and Trump, it was pretty clear those two groups aren't the same at all.

I dont like biden but i would still feel the joy of relief if he beat trump—it wouldn’t be hollow to me