PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

can't help themselves w coming the xunt

The moves against Boris a couple of weeks ago felt like a genuine turning point so of course they're all pissing it up the wall because internal disputes and vacuous personal brand building are more important than presenting a united front and actually preventing the worst government we can remember from driving us over the cliff. And I'm including Jo Swinson in this as well.

That's a hasty reaction Matt. When was the last time conference business decided anything election wise? The key (atm) is Fisher is staying on to work through the next election.

The policy on Europe is decided (bar Corbyn's neutrality in a ref).

They are actively trying to generate terrible, damaging headlines in conference week and last year they showed they were capable of doing the opposite.

yeah but last year all the bad headlines were attacking their policies that would be a marxist raid on shareholders etc.. was that any less damaging to the party? idk

It was less damaging because the policies are more popular than the perception of the party and its MPs

That said it seems like they can't win the media game in between elections so Matt is probably overstating the damage

It's kind of exhausting having to tie your calculations about how best to unseat this useless shitheel government to considerations of Brexitmania, the need to appease or at least work with hostile melts etc; hard to blame anybody for getting to the "can we just whack Watson/MR Seumas Milne already?" phase

An actual election should take their minds off it for a bit

Just a month or so ago we had the shares plan, and the property acquisition from landlords. I feel the policies will go on.

The problem to me -- and this might be fatal -- is the selling of this European policy and whether we can cut through as a reasonable plan. We could get No deal because it's easier to get that we leave, and people thinks this will make Europe go away. The reality of dealing with an issue at another ref might be asking too much of people.

A good line is still needed.

but of course what makes the line so difficult, and plays into the hands of Brexit Party and Lib Dem ultras, is that Europe cuts across the established party lines and this brute fact can't just be handwaved away in a wishful "become the Remain party" fantasy, not least because of the labyrinthine mathematics of FPTP

It was a cathartic rant but we'll know after the election won't we?

Last year the press clutched their pearls about the policy announcements but the policies themselves were popular and cut through. That's less likely to happen if they're being drowned out by all the other noise.

I'm still wondering why a previously loyal and supportive aide would choose this precise moment to resign. Maybe they had to get ahead of the story - the publication of the full memo or something else.

he's still a loyal and supportive aide, going from his twitter feed this morning. all very odd

It wasn’t this moment - it was last week. Looks from the statement that he was trying to keep it quiet and work an agreed notice period, but the Times published the stuff they’d been leaked.

There might be something more to Fisher going, but also part of me doesn't want to be that much of a nerd about staffing issues (also getting a lot through my twitter about Sanders' staff atm).

good

Rayner: Labour plans to “integrate” private schools into state system. So plan to abolish tax breaks (scrap discounted business rates & charge VAT on fees) in 1st budget, then end dual system of private/state Momentum source tells me they expect vote to pass #LabourConference2019 pic.twitter.com/lbMTXapunU

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) September 22, 2019

This is the Labour against private schools motion. Rayner used the same language in her speech “integrate” all private schools. That means, according to motion, “endowments, investments and properties held by private schools be redistributed democratically & fairly” pic.twitter.com/nVoz2EiJF5

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) September 22, 2019

class war is good not bad

free nursery education for all 2-4 year olds should be a massive policy

Yup. I'm going to spend the next two years of my life paying to work full time pic.twitter.com/MLoB1rsa9C

— boodleoops (@boodleoops) September 21, 2019

Murdoch press and Daily Mail all pushing the Boris Johnson / Jennifer Arcuri story this morning.

https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-jennifer-arcuri-overruled-officials-send-trade-missions-2019-9

Strong Disgraced Former Defence Minister Liam Fox vibes on this one.

what's the uk equiv of "Drain The Swamp"?

dredging the thames?

Disinfect the bog.

lid the ditch and skirt the sinkholes

Drano the sink

Empty the skip

Exterminate all the brutes

clear the lobby

Fill in the potholes.

sir you go too far

Gut the kippers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9ugPXbXgAAXN2E.jpg

De-grease the AGA.

Activate the queen

the red queen

Confirmed, Ian Austin is lurking outside Labour Conference like a bitter stalking ex who can’t let go.

Obviously planning a media stunt.#LabourConference2019 pic.twitter.com/LR8UWK2jt6

— Joshua Funnell 🌹 (@JoshuaFunnell2) September 22, 2019

Absolutely tragic. This shower makes Change UK look like a formidable operation. pic.twitter.com/vqFbOwJl4g

— Joshua Funnell 🌹 (@JoshuaFunnell2) September 22, 2019

pretty sure the Campaign Against Extremism will turn up at the Tory party conference just to even it out

"Mainstream" lool the lettering makes it look like a pharmacy delivery service

Inject it directly into my veins.

Austin’s big launch splash is a YouGov poll suggesting that Labour’s extremist hard left membership would like to abolish the monarchy.

never have they been more at one with the FBPE Internationale

https://i.postimg.cc/hjLY4J5S/4-A98-B938-3847-4-A04-845-F-0-F4-A7-C2-A9-AE8.jpg
That Ian Austin feels these views are sufficiently ~extreme~ enough to publish makes me extremely glad he’s fucked off out of Labour.

Good from Diane Abbott

We will welcome refugees, including child refugees.

We will proudly uphold the torture ban and treat the victims of torture with humanity, not detentions and deportations.

We will end indefinite immigration detention, and limit it to the 28 days MPs were originally promised.

And we will close Yarl’s Wood and Brook House detention centres and review the entire detention estate.

We will fund our police forces properly, and work to give our communities genuine security.

We will hold public inquiries into historic injustices – into Orgreave, into blacklisting.

We will release all papers relating to the Shrewsbury 24 trials and the 37 Cammell Laird shipyard workers.

I owe everything in life to the Labour movement. There was a postwar generation of socialists who campaigned against colonialism. There was the NHS orange juice and cod-liver oil. There was my free university education. And above all the chance to serve as Britain’s first black woman MP.

Agree with all of that apart from the cod-liver oil.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFFAeLbXYAAZ5QF.jpg

Thornberry wins the prize for most subtle apparel of the day!

Mr Corbyn is also wary of comparing himself with Marvel comic characters as Boris Johnson did and was then ridiculed as the Incredible Hulk.

The Labour leader said: “I’m no superhero but I hope my superpower is listening to people. You can learn a lot from listening.”

Mr Johnson described Mr Corbyn as a “superannuated Marxist” in an email to Conservative party members on Friday.

Mr Corbyn sniffed: “That’s ridiculously ageist. I haven’t got anything against him because of his age.”

Is this...another weird conspiracy theory?

Tom Watson: “It must be very lonely being the Lee Harvey Oswald of the Labour Party for Jon Lansman.”

— Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) September 22, 2019

Slimfast is a helluva drug

he needs to remember Corbyn is teetotal/vegetarian/probably never done coke and in much better shape than him. And making ageist comments when you are knocking on 60 is not good!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFFR7xRX4AASXV4?format=jpg&name=large

Mr Corbyn sniffed:

I'd say the choice of verbs here is rather loaded against Mr. Corbyn's favor. I assume it was deliberate.

TBF he does sound sniffy during standard intakes of breath.

(xxp) All for voluntary starvation in this case tbh.