Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

See reaction from @DrPhilGoff to conservative @HMDatMI as she asserts at a House Oversight hearing on policing that concerns about police shooting black people are overstated. pic.twitter.com/FSRaiLNIFL

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) September 19, 2019

amazing either of them can keep a straight face, for totally different reasons

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/24/steamy-chat-distracted-an-officer-when-she-entered-wrong-apartment-killed-man-prosecutors-say/

the dallas cop from a while back was ~hornt~

This is a good argument for making officers store their weapons at the precinct

https://wsvn.com/news/local/tamarac-commissioner-confronts-bso-deputy-during-awards-ceremony/

After Gallardo was presented with the award, Commissioner Mike Gelin took the microphone and confronted Gallardo about his previous interaction with the deputy.

“It’s good to see you again. You probably don’t remember me, but you’re the police officer who falsely arrested me four years ago,” Gelin said to Gallardo. “You lied on the police report. I believe you are a rogue police officer. You’re a bad police officer, and you don’t deserve to be here.”

After the confrontation, the room fell silent, and other commissioners said they appreciated the deputies. Gelin, however, walked away.

Nice!

non brutality-related side note: Taramac was named after a country club that was itself named after a chain of car washes called Car-a-Mat.

That was beautiful

this is not

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/09/30/jury-consider-castle-doctrine-amber-guyger-murder-trial/

"Stand Your Ground" applying to some random black guy's apartment is some seriously next level America

i expect the way the law is written permits something like a 'reasonable belief' standard due to the legislators not having imagined needing to require actually being in one's own home so as to exclude people who were wrong about believing they were in their own homes

still

The big story in NYC at the moment is about some cop in the Bronx who got shot to death over the weekend while fighting with a suspect (who was also killed), but it seems that the other cops on the scene shot both of them. It's the second friendly-fire cop death this year. Also, this "death of hero cop" story is helping keep the story of another NYC cop who was arrested for molesting a 12-year-old girl at his house out of the news...

Apparently 100% of the nyc cops killed on duty this year were killed by cops.

so they're finally good for something after all

#BREAKING:

GUILTY:
Jury finds former Dallas police officer #AmberGuyger guilty of murder in the shooting death of #BothamJean.

— Jason Whitely (@JasonWhitely) October 1, 2019

I’m honestly shocked.

Wow.

sweet

case was insane

good

Meanwhile: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/29/us/ismael-lopez-southaven-mississippi/index.html

An attorney for a city in Mississippi said in court documents a man who was shot by police in a case of mistaken identity has no Fourth or 14th Amendment protections because he was not a US citizen.

Ismael Lopez was shot and killed at his mobile home in July 2017 after police mixed up his address with that of a man wanted for domestic assault. Murray Wells, an attorney representing Lopez's family, said an investigation commissioned by his firm revealed that Lopez died of a single bullet to the back of the head . . .

an attorney for the city filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit on September 4, saying Lopez had no Fourth or 14th Amendment protections because Lopez was an "illegal alien" at the time of his death.

The Mississippi city's recent court filing said Lopez was a convicted felon "for a crime of violence" while in the US, and did "not have the same rights as legal or resident aliens."

"If he ever had Fourth Amendment or Fourteenth Amendment civil rights, they were lost by his own conduct and misconduct. Ismael Lopez may have been a person on American soil but he was not one of the 'We, the People of the United States' entitled to the civil rights invoked in this lawsuit," a city attorney wrote in her motion.

In the conclusion, the city lawyer says, "Federal civil rights are not civil rewards for violating the laws of the United States."

lol there's no way that holds up in court

Well, let's assume. But just the absolute brass it takes to say that out loud.

the conclusion of that argument is that anyone here illegally is fair game for use, abuse and slavery of any kind

My jaw dropped as I read that, the sheer poison of it

isn't swearing to a, whatchamacall, moral thingy, part of admission to the bar??

After the tears and the verdict, we learn more about Amber Guyer at the sentencing phase. This woman should never have been a police ofcr, armed by the state. The Dallas Police Dept has to answer some questions. https://t.co/r89z3JYx0A

— Sherrilyn Ifill (@Sifill_LDF) October 2, 2019

I'm shocked, I tell you

Has the s3c0nd c1ty c0p blog been mentioned in this thread so far? Was reminded of it's existence again earlier today and morbid curiosity led me to confirm that yes, it's gotten as bad as you might imagine under the new mayor.

my right-wing 2nd cty cop cousin links to it so much in social media i'm half-wondering if it's his blog.

you should send your cousin the finding that the Police Lives Matter fb page is based out of Kosovo.

Xp Is that the home of Uncle Shavedlongcock?

10 year sentence.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qvgwmm/ex-dallas-cop-amber-guyger-sentence-to-10-years-in-prison-for-murdering-unarmed-black-man

BULLSHIT

Botham Jean's brother was amazingly forgiving and kind in his remarks. Maybe the jury took that into account?

in TX the minimum sentence for murder is 5 years.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/10/07/what-if-your-abusive-husband-is-a-cop

Hard to imagine why so many police officers are domestic abusers pic.twitter.com/hbujJCNwMv

— hungry like the goose (@knight69420) October 4, 2019

The WaPo header above it is ***chef's kiss***

FWIW, that's five years old. I'm sure the cop in question has had time to reflect and adopt a more enlightened perspective.

yeah, it's now 'i'm a cop. i will hurt you even if you don't challenge me'

Walked into the Jamaican spot yesterday and stood in line behind to black cops. One of them says “She shoulda got 20 years, 10 is too light.” Other says “You ever see a judge hug one of us after being convicted of murder?”

I was *shocked* to hear NYPD, even black ones say that.

— jelani cobb (@jelani9) October 4, 2019

Nobody hates a bad cop worse than a good cop. Bad cops make every cop's job a lot harder. I mean if your stance is "no, every police officer's job is fundamentally to maintain and enforce white supremacy" then I guess we're talking past each other, but that's not my stance.

Nobody hates a bad cop worse than a good cop.

this is false, as any cursory examination of what happens to police whistleblowers will tell you

Or, there are fuckton of bad cops out there

(My dad's cousin was a police officer who was almost murdered by his partner because he wouldn't put up with cop shit)
("almost murdered" may be hyperbole but that's how he tells the story)

yeah if anything the dynamic cited just underscores how rare good cops are

It was great, at last weekend's National Trans Visibility March in Washington DC, to see all the police that were assigned for security and route control there getting all gasfaced when several speakers said, "Never forget, the police are not our friends, they don't care about crimes against transwomen and they aren't here to protect us."

even if they go in good, the culture tends to squeeze them out or enforce silence early

From what I can tell the police situation in Portland is getting increasingly critical. They're having an extremely difficult time finding people. They're trying lowering their standards, because that's certainly going to help things. They're also spending a lot of money on a media campaign to try and improve their public image, presumably under the assumption that if we just UNDERSTOOD them a little bit better we'd trust them. Not sure where they're getting the money for that from. In the meantime, mandatory overtime for everybody! Which, again, is certainly going to help things.

Last time the city needed to negotiate with the police they brought in a firm that specialized in union-busting. Caused a little bit of a kerfluffle, because people out here believe it's important to support unions. If I make an exception to that for anybody, it'd be for the police union.

Me, I live out in a suburb. Nice quiet working class suburb, or was until a bunch of liberal elites moved in and started queering the place up. Lot of pickup trucks. At least a couple of those openly fascist police American flags (wonder if any of the high-priced public image consultants they've talked to have had any feedback on those). I don't go for walks in my neighborhood anymore.

Joshua Brown, an essential witness in the #AmberGuyger murder trial, was reportedly killed Friday night in Dallas, Texas.

This comes just days after the former police officer was found guilty of murdering #BothamJean: https://t.co/OzdeJrBR9l pic.twitter.com/nn1JonxKUt

— Complex (@Complex) October 5, 2019

Christ