Damon Lindelof's Watchmen

you truly can take any existing work of fiction and shoehorn in the interesting experiments in history and ethics you've been brainstorming, no matter how awkward the fit

Oh, Lindelofpaws

Imagine knowing everything DC had done to steal this from Moore over & over across three decades, and everything Snyder had said about Moore watching in his “flat” in “London,” and Moore’s reaction, and Moore’s politics, then writing this and thinking “this is IT. I’ve really cracked the nut,” and phoning Moore to tell him about it & invite him onto the writing staff. What a vast, magnificently unselfaware amount of confidence to float through life with.

I would expect nothing less from the brain behind the script for Prometheus.

Looked him up to see if anything he's done bar the first ep of Lost has entered my eyeballs, and his comic-book adaptation ethics are consistently ratshit: he's also credited on the Cowboys Vs Aliens movie.

and yet, The Leftovers

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/watchmen-hbo-nycc-damon-lindelof-alan-moore-graphic-novel-1203360041/

“The thing that makes the original perfect was those 12 issues were designed and well-thought out,” he continued. “And it was very clear that there was a beginning, middle, and end in mind. There may have been a little bit of play in terms of the route, but they knew exactly what they were doing. We knew we had to do the same. So we plotted out these episodes. We knew exactly where we were headed. And every mystery, every question that we were asking had to be resolved.”

lmao

There's nothing quite like creating a supplement to a work your readily admit is complete unto itself. Hats off to ya, Damon.

Truly the secret of creating a great work is having a beginning, a middle and an end

feel like I heard that somewhere... Aristotle innit?

he's ahead of jj abrams there

don’t get me started

Abrams has often spoken of the inspiration he took from Aristotle's Lensflarica.

A rave review! (It is not a rave review.)

https://io9.gizmodo.com/hbos-watchmen-wants-to-dig-into-the-heart-of-american-r-1838914665

That sure was a lot of words for "it's a pilot, we'll see what happens"

lol how is it you are u still in the tank for this bullshit

you mean how am I optimistic about a show almost no one's seen by creatives whose last show was one of the best ever?

did you really just use the word "creatives"

Sounds like it doesn’t have much to do with the comic.

I'm going to need a few more episodes reviewed before I even think about watching "masked cops but woke"

genuinely wondering why this is a WATCHMEN series when it seems to have no need to be, other than getting viewers

will not watch, in any case, it's all so grubby

did you really just use the word "creatives"

too much time spent on the screenwriting discord

Would he have preferred “showrunners”? Lol

Crap artists

luv 2 show my inherent respect to "creatives" by stanning for a Watchmen TV show

assuming it has an above-average chance of being good based on immediately preceding work is "stanning" now, cool

most pre-release reviews of shows are based on 3-4 eps minimum, I'm assuming the trades will have something to say soon

apologies:

luv 2 show my inherent respect to "creatives" by endorsing scabbing over and over and over

if it makes you feel any better I'll be pirating it

https://images.amcnetworks.com/amc.com/wp-content/uploads/mt-legacy/scifi-scanner/w-i5-p9-06.jpg

What about all the awful non-immediately preceding work

Though the events of the original Watchmen comics play a significant role in the shaping of the series’ world—a place where the internet and cell phones don’t exist

lol when are writers going to stop finding ways to write themselves out of the corners that the modern world has painted them into and actually start creatively engaging with them

Watchmen (at least in its first episode) frames white terrorists and cops as being diametrically-opposed groups that have no ideological overlap.

speaking of problematic writing: holy shit

lol when are writers going to stop finding ways to write themselves out of the corners that the modern world has painted them into and actually start creatively engaging with them

just because Lindelof sucks doesn’t mean that ppl who are not Lindelof didn’t write Open Windows and Cellular and Content and Sherlock and Stuber and Broad City and Years & Years and Cyberbully and Mosaic and

sorry, i don't watch anything that's not comic-book-related

I thought we already had the "writing the world as it isn't to evoke something about the world as it is" discussion on the OUATIH thread

(of course that doesn't make every alternate earth a good or sound idea)

Based on how I feel about Watchmen, almost thirty years after I first read it, I am... intrigued but not that interested by this.

But based on how I feel about all three seasons of the Leftovers, I am ****super excited****

.. and If I'd only watched Lost and Prometheus, I'd be claw sharpening. But The Leftovers is so good, guys.

The only valid excuse for technological anachronisms in fiction is steampunk.

Wait, is this steampunk, if so then steamsign me up

Y'all, looking at his corpus on the whole, how much do you think Lindelof personally contributed to the quality of The Leftovers?

considering there are only two eps he didn't have a story or writing credit on, a lot!

also sorry but most of Lost was good

incidentally, Tom Perotta has a new series of his own w/ Kathryn Hahn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs._Fletcher

Lost was a mesmerizing window into the world of mastercraftspeople as they devoted years to the loving assembly of a wondrously-intricate clockwork machine which, when they finally wound it up and set it into motion, ultimately twitched and heaved and collapsed on its creators and audience with a sad mechanical fart.

Why would there be no cell phones or a internet in the present-day Watchmen universe? Even if “everything changed” at the end of the book, that stuff grew out of technology that would have predated the Squid Event...

it’s because blue lives matter iirc

https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/09/watchmen.jpg

see, it’s a rich metaphor, lindelof is good again

Most of Lost was NOT good, they pulled a bullshit 'the whole episode was a dream, nothing you just watched happened' move partway through the first series, which is when I abandoned it. The first EPISODE was good.

I agree it was bad but ilx certainly did not agree with that contention

I watched the first episode and went “wtf is this bullshit, are they supposed to be in purgatory?” then checked out, so the finale discourse was extremely satisfying

xxp there is no dream episode. maybe you're thinking of the episode where they gave hurley an imaginary friend, which was indeed a bad episode, but it was in season 2 i think.

only the "flashsideways" in the final season were purgatory. it was dumb.